Does anyone else miss old Vladimir?

rmch99··47 votes·2,960 views

I really enjoyed actually being able to play Vlad as a glass cannon, not as whatever-the-hell it is he is now. Old Vlad with the new items sounds like one of the most fun things ever. Easy way to work in 40% CDR, mobility, etc on old Vlad would be GODLY. I'm sad about this rework.

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Mazariamonti13 votes

No, not to say I like the new one more, but old Vladimir could be really obnoxious too and was even less fun to play as.

Evewynn3 votes

Old Vlad was the most stat-checking champion in the game. No skill involved, you either won the fight or you lost. And by lost I mean pool away before you take any serious damage.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

They are only missing pre-rework Vladimir in his exact pre-rework state (hit with the nerf hammer till his eye level is barely above the ground). Old Vladimir at the height of his power...I shudder to think of it. Post-Rework full power Vlad has nothing on that.

Although him being nerfed to the ground after the rework mainly goes to show one thing - that such a safe kit cannot exist with the level of sustain he has.

skocc8 votes

Me too, i do not like this new Vlad one bit, before he was very unique in his play style, but now he feels like every other mage, i could might as well be playing Lissandra or Zyra, they feel all too similar. And yea, imagine the possibilities on Vlad with these new items QQ.

Also i don't like the Zyra one that much, on paper she should be stronger but she feels sooo much weaker. Come to think of it, i don't like any of these group reworks, except for Kog'Maw (genius rework) but now they are un-reworking him :/

I just pray to god they don't ruin Leblanc, Talon and Katarina.

kile1476 votes

Graves was a pretty good rework feel wise. He's super hard to balance now but he feels more like a "shotgun wielding badass" . Cait was alright too.

MunchCrunchLunch4 votes

hell yeah its pretty good to be the master of everything. tank assassin adc fighter.

Drahcir1 votes

Jack of all trades, master of none, he's Tanky, doesn't have substantial cc Assassin, with little mobility(Comparatively) Adc, with a low dps.

MohawkBird1 votes

Your other points are valid, but I wouldn't consider his DPS to be low.

Abyssphere1 votes

Can ou actually give any details as to why Vlad feels more like a generic mage now than before?

Awoof2 votes

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Also i don't like the Zyra one that much, on paper she should be stronger but she feels sooo much weaker.

Throw seeds in random directions. #GameDesign

Keepe7 votes

Hell. Old Vlad would be kinda awesome even without Will of the Ancients.

It was something I learned to work with anyway back when they decided to put mana regen on the item for LoLs.

ZerglingOne6 votes

I miss old Vlad, yes.

Nyanza3 votes

I feel your pain bro. I miss old Taric.

NotCounter3 votes

it being "GODLY" sounds like a good reason for it to not exist

Thurst281 votes

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it being "GODLY" sounds like a good reason for it to not exist

Yes but there are still Godly champs out there that haven't been touched. Mainly because they get pro play time. A small nerf would have been fine. After playing several games in a row with him again, he is useless. His kit is weak, and sustain is not really there anymore.

Silent Pace3 votes

I miss about 1/3rd of the pre-rework champs, some of which only needed tweaks like a new passive and they would be fine. This is probably hind-sight though.

reaperteaser2 votes

i mainly miss will of the ancients

Count Zubat2 votes

How could I not miss him. He was the champion that made me play this game in the first place. He was my first main. For few months everytime I would open League client, I couldn't just wait to get into champ select and play another Vlad game. I learned all basic mechanics playing this guy, from last hitting minions to everything else.

But now, I can't play Vlad anymore. I can't get the feel of this new one. I cannot get used to his new E. My favorite champion is gone. I don't have reason to play this game anymore.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

no. he was too annoying in lane. his old E. was cancer. that E was chunking 1/3d of your hp unless you rush mr.

statelesskiller1 votes

yeah but it sucked up just as much of old vlads health to get it to the point that it COULD chunk you that much. and by the time you got MR he wasnt capable of chunking you that hard unless he was ahead. his Es health cost early on was pretty damn high

unless your a asshole like me and ran 9% spellvamp at the game start. then it got abit easier

Rockm Sockm2 votes

Old vlad was extremely easy to pub stomp and a complete joke pre 9.

New Vlad is just a complete joke.

He still has no way to fight you unless you run at him.

He now snares and hurts himself as much as his new shit E hurts you.

His ult is still only good for organized team play.

His q is worse than before.

His w cd is a joke for what it provides. We can keep a max cdr fizz on a 4 sec cd though.

chipndip12 votes

Not in the slightest.

dominusx1 votes

Do you guys miss getting your Hp sucked out every 3 seconds with no counterplay? Do you guys miss the undodgeable E? Yeah i dont think so.At least this vlad relies more on his healing than the older one.

Peoples Champ3 votes

Vlad literally still able to do all of that. His E range is still pretty far and you can't dodge it unless you're playing distant which was exactly what you were supposed to do before. If anything now his empowered Q just hits you like a truck while his regular Q is a bit weak.

dominusx1 votes

Now you just get a excutoner and when he is about to use his 3rd Q hit him. Boom he doesnt heal so you can trade with him easily his 1st 2 q's are useless anyway. Old Vlad didnt care that much about the healing since every Q did dmg

Draven Wun Trick1 votes

fun for you, not fun for others. that's why they reworked him :/

Spizzle90001 votes

Tbh I prefer new Vlad in terms of playstyle but I hate how damn hard he is for Riot to balance. If he's significantly below average in the average player's game, he's godlike in pro play. If he's mediocre in pro play, he is absolutely awful in regular games.

Marshbouy1 votes

No. Old vlad had little to no windows of power and without the cancerous WOTA he would be incredibly trash.

cyberchade1 votes

i lke the simplicity of old vlad but new vlad just feels more powerfull even tho he isnt i think riot needs to buff his Ap scaling and nerf his healing vlad should punish a team for forgeting about him when he and swain where OP they both hurt you for fighting them and leaving them alone in a team fight

HateDaddy1 votes

I miss playing old Vlad, I don't miss playing against him

UnboundCreator1 votes

as a vlad main the only thing i miss is the old q

I7A6X2v21 votes

Is there even big differences between the old and new Vlad... I think the new vlad is better than the old one, the old vlad was boring.

Elros Thranduil1 votes

as a vlad main( who reached to diamond by spamming vlad in 3 different accounts and had generally %60-70 win rate.) new vlad is slightly stronger than the old vlad.

I only miss him being unpopular. Old vlad was just an ap mage with tankiness, new vlad is a tanky mage who deals decent damage and has amazing sustain. Literally his sustain is even stronger than old vlad with wota. But its just doesnt feel the same. That simple playstyle vlad was better. There was a rule which I told people who asked for tips about vlad and I was saying, " Playing vlad is easy but mastering him is hard". That feeling is gone now. Now he is the same vlad in bronze elo, in challanger elo doesnt matter. This is what rito wants anyway. So..

R FLASH XD1 votes

I don't miss any kind of vladimir tbh

Sammystorm1 votes

Old vlad was annoying. No one liked old vlad. This is like saying "don't you miss old poppy" or "don't you miss old eve". The only people who missed them were the people who abused them when they were strong.

Zetto1 votes

No thanks, at least you can kill new vlad. If old vlad got 5 kills up on you you'd better bring half the team if you'd wanted to kill him.

Thurst281 votes

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No thanks, at least you can kill new vlad. If old vlad got 5 kills up on you you'd better bring half the team if you'd wanted to kill him.

Anyone gets 5 kills up you better bring half the team.

Thurst281 votes

I've not been a fan of most the reworks done this past season. Vlad, poppy, Darius, Shen.... Ryze, and Taric I don't really care either way. Aniva Ult... BOOOOo.

But the item changes are the worst to me. Removing of SV crushed Swain and Vlad imo. All to nurf Akali it seemed like. Her and one other it seem were the sole purpose of SV removal. Not to mention item 3152 as if this hyper mobile meta needs more mobility. This game has gotten weird to be. It no longer feels like you get n a fight but have to explode you opponent.

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

I'm building him Glass Cannon again since the latest nerf to his E. Its working quite well so far in Silver Ranked.

I run 15% CDR scaling runes with Stormraiders... and then I rush Luddens. Mid game they are always SUPER SHOCKED when I go from passive farming to Ghosting into team fights and then NUKING their whole army with pure AP from Hemoplague and Tides of Blood spamming.

Inevitably they panic and start focusing me or going in 1 at a time... our team then destroys them with Vlad Pooling in and out of fights.

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