Maybe I've been making boards wrong

MysticFlameHaze··5 votes·416 views

So I make boards every now and then and always get downvoted without anyone giving proper reasoning why they disagree, so.

What would be some of your reasonings why deaths dance is balanced, and your opinion when paired with phantom dancer and any other lifesteal item?

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Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

I think this item is stupidly broken :

  • low cost (compare to stat given)
  • high AD
  • great passive And coupled to PD its insane. I mean on a ranged its make them tanky... all what i hate as MonkeyKing
UnboundHades1 votes

deaths dance is stupid op at the moment

Risk of Fate1 votes

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MysticFlameHaze1 votes

Exactly my point, this upon phantom dancer reducing your damage gives them insane durability during a fight. and not every champ can build it but it works amazingly on champs who are supposed to be squishy as one of their core weaknesses.

deadlychuck1 votes

Naw, you're not making them wrong, that's just how the boards work. Maybe it's less common for a random person to upvote than it is for a random person to downvote?

Though, really just death's dance is in a weird spot, where it provides the optimal stats along with the effect that it provides. Kinda like Rav Hydra, it provides lifesteal, which pairs insanely well with the unique passive it provides. Imagine how OP hurricane would be if it had built in lifesteal...

Really the root of this problem can probably be traced back to lifesteal, as the only offensive scaling defensive stat in the game.

MysticFlameHaze1 votes

Yeah i sort of agree because Either the damage taken over time needs to be 1 reverted or reduced, or lifesteal should be weaker. but nerfing lifesteal would affect many more things in the game making it harder to balance that changing the one item that is definitely out of line.

Scary Door1 votes

Rule #1 to the Boards:

The more down votes you get, the more likely you are to be 100% right. Most people just hit "down vote" when they disagree, which is a silly system. There's a big difference from a post being a complete troll or a hate thread worthy of downvotes and one where someone just gives an opinion that disagrees with your own. Unfortunately, the Boards are more likely to down vote the latter and up vote the former. That's just how it works.

420 grams1 votes

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Rule #1 to the Boards:

The more down votes you get, the more likely you are to be 100% right. Most people just hit "down vote" when they disagree, which is a silly system. There's a big difference from a post being a complete troll or a hate thread worthy of downvotes and one where someone just gives an opinion that disagrees with your own. Unfortunately, the Boards are more likely to down vote the latter and up vote the former. That's just how it works.

So the more people that have an opposing opinion, the more correct the poster is? 🤔

Scary Door1 votes

Given the GENERAL nature of the Boards, yes.

Kind of like when you go to the Sportsbook and you see the public is heavily wagering on one side of a game, you kinda feel better with that underdog pick because the public is generally lacking in knowledge about wagering.

So to are the Boards generally lacking in knowledge. I look at downvotes kind of like a badge of honor, it means I'm doing something right.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

Not really. There are legitimate posts that get downvoted because of circlejerks, but that doesn't mean every post that gets downvoted is a legitimate post.

MysticFlameHaze1 votes

I mean many things which i have talked about in the past have been downvoted and are now see as true today

rtbf2216514121 votes

It's balanced because Spell vamp items are gone and spell vamp clearly gets faster off attack speed. Kappa

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

perhaps you don't give a reason?

We're just to blindly follow. IF we see some science or numbers. people will get on the hate train. People don't wanna hate without reason.

MysticFlameHaze1 votes

I usually give examples but i suppose i do it wrong.

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

People being mean or petty for no reason? On my internet?

It's more likely than you think.

Death's Dance is probably made a bit more busted by ADC but ADC seem to need crit to keep up these days. I dunno.

Phantom Dancer is probably more guilty of making Death's Dance nasty on certain picks.

Death's Dance might be a good candidate for 'Melee Only.' Or for half the bleed effective. The thing is Death's Dance only saves you if you can sustain harder than the 30% overhang.

MysticFlameHaze1 votes

Hmm i disagree a bit there with the adc's needing crit mostly cause the past few patches this year have made crit less worthy to buy such as the Leathality era

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Lethality era is over, lethality is trash.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Because sheep mentality. You don't word it in a way where shit makes sense and you don't suggest actual decent fixes. You list every broken thing about the item, act like it's the most busted shit ever, complain about how it makes some hated champion around here cancer, bash riot's balance team and make sure there's a lot of fucking salt.

That's how you get shit upvoted. If you want to make constructive and logical threads, you have a better chance at reddit than here.

MysticFlameHaze1 votes

Lol i thought you were saying that's everything i've been doing for a moment, but see i've used lucian right now, and graves as examples cause they are usually prime users of whatever item is in, not much lucian but always graves.

69469238DEL11 votes

A lot of us like Death's Dance the way it is now so yeah you'll get downvoted for trying to start the "nerf nerf nerf" chant

MysticFlameHaze1 votes

see i like death's dance the way it was before. so it's mostly why i dont like it now cause i thought the change wasn't truly needed, the attack damage buff sure but not the passive buff

Calabok1 votes

yes nerf DD and buff AP stuff

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