It is starting, Annie

desertoflame·May 5, 2015·3 votes·741 views

Annie has her AA range lowered to 575 from 625. I predict this will be the start of her destruction as anything caught in Riot's eyes is ultimately destroyed. I am gonna go play ADC Annie while I can.

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Goodest GamerMay 5, 20152 votes

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Annie has her AA range lowered to 575 from 625. I predict this will be the start of her destruction as anything caught in Riot's eyes is ultimately destroyed. I am gonna go play ADC Annie while I can.

wtf???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!? now she cant harass u across her whole minion wave????????????????????????????????? my god she is so unviable now. SHES LIKE AATROX, NEVER PLAYED. sorry to hear that dude. tool...

desertoflameMay 5, 20151 votes

Read, I did not say her AA lowered would destroy. I am predicting that other changes will follow through to "balance" her, somewhat similar to Veigar

Goodest GamerMay 5, 20151 votes

if anything anie deserves nerfs. the flash r "mechanics" were way too old school. ahri needs to land charm to kill her opponent half the time while others need to land more than 1 thing to kill an entire team. her playstyle was unfair to others seemingly because if she got 6 she could burst every single mid laner down from 100-0.

desertoflameMay 5, 20151 votes

Nerfs will go over board, Ide assume they would add delays on Tibbers. If that is the case I would say giving her some mobility on her E and up'ing its mana costs so that Annie no longer HAS to have flash to be usefull

HailFire DragonMay 5, 20152 votes

if it was me i would add mobility to her sheild...make it worth actually leveling up over some of the other abilities sometimes

desertoflameMay 5, 20151 votes

That is exactly what what I think would help compensate if Delays are added.

ReikkenMay 6, 20152 votes

ADC is the only thing Annie is bad at the attack range is nice, but her base attack speed is way too low. She has the lowest AS in the game. for 98% of champions, 0.625 is the lowest base AS. Annie's is 0.579. She gets 20% less out of AS items than Ashe and Vayne get. That's on top of having low AS/level and low AD and zero attack buffs of any kind. Also she has to continually cast spells to cycle stun, and her spells have notable cast times.

but good luck with your ADC Annie

Meanwhile I'm hoping that the range nerf will cause them to finally raise her base AS to0.625, the baseline for every other champion

ThryaleMay 5, 20151 votes

I've tried ad annie, it's okay, but her cripplingly low atkspd makes it hard to work well.

desertoflameMay 5, 20151 votes

It is kinda like playing ashe, You have a stun and good AA range.

The Bearded BardMay 5, 20151 votes

Finally. Her AA range has always been stupid.

FarRockBFMay 5, 20151 votes

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Finally. Her AA range has always been stupid.

Yup now she will have absolutely no way to reach other mid mages! Congrats!

desertoflameMay 5, 20151 votes

The change makes it so Annie has to land her stun to safely trade, before she harrasd without actually having to stun

The Bearded BardMay 5, 20151 votes

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Yup now she will have absolutely no way to reach other mid mages! Congrats!

If you're trying to make me feel bad for any kind of Annie nerfs, it's not going to work. Not a fan of the champion, will always think it's a good thing when she gets nerfed.

FarRockBFMay 5, 20151 votes

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If you're trying to make me feel bad for any kind of Annie nerfs, it's not going to work. Not a fan of the champion, will always think it's a good thing when she gets nerfed.

Now that's a logical argument!

/sarcasm

As it is Annie struggles versus most poke champs such as Lux and Velkoz. Sure she excels versus the current melee meta (Zed, Yasuo, Talon), but once mid mages become a thing again she absolutely needs her AA range or she has to just sit under tower and usually STILL take harass.

What's your logical argument for why this nerf is justifiable?

The Bearded BardMay 5, 20151 votes

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Now that's a logical argument!

/sarcasm

As it is Annie struggles versus most poke champs such as Lux and Velkoz. Sure she excels versus the current melee meta (Zed, Yasuo, Talon), but once mid mages become a thing again she absolutely needs her AA range or she has to just sit under tower and usually STILL take harass.

What's your logical argument for why this nerf is justifiable?

What's your argument for why she should have it in the first place? She's a short range mage that has no spells that have to do with her autoattacks. Lux is a long ranged mage with an ability that uses her autoattacks to activate and she's got less range on her autos. Viktor is a short ranged mage with 525 aa range despite his reliance on autos for his main ability during the laning phase. There's no reason why her aa range should be longer than average, and it still is even with the nerf.

desertoflameMay 5, 20151 votes

Her AA range for a mage was quite high, but there will be more. I am sure

Linna ExcelMay 5, 20151 votes

Nah, go AP nashors.

desertoflameMay 5, 20151 votes

AP Nashors plus Lich for ultimately harass xD

SIaytonMay 6, 20151 votes

Why don't they just give her casting time / animation to her W an R to add counterplay? That's literally all she needs. You just can't react to Tibbers at all, as well as W. They're just instant AOE stun hitboxes. The only counterplay is "don't be anywhere near annie", which was what made her dumb.

Still, shouldn't be much of a nerf to solo lane annie. Support annie is gonna be weaker though.

JustMyBassCannonMay 6, 20151 votes

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I predict this will be the start of her destruction as anything caught in Riot's eyes is ultimately destroyed.

Drama queen

They've fixed more than they've broken, and they've fixed most of what they broke. Yes, there are still balance and design issues in the game, but it's not like they're just leaving the game to rot.