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Does anyone want Akali's heal back on her kit?

DCYOUNG888··2 votes·1,337 views

I always liked Akali Akali (both pre-rework and post-rework) for having sustained healing in her kit but in patch 9.3 Riot decided to remove the heal in her full energy q in order to give her counterplay. While Riot did give her some compensation buffs for the removal of her heal I still feel a little empty now that Akali doesn't have a built-in heal in her kit similar to what happened when Kindred Kindred got her w heal removed before. On top of that Akali still has a very high energy cost on her q which was built around her heal before (though you could argue it can be still used for quick burst damage).

I do however, realize that the q heal on Akali was a problem since she could sustain a bit too well against the enemy laner when she started to snowball or play safely. I was thinking from what others have said on Reddit or boards that if Riot does decide to give her back her heal it should be on her passive, Mark of the Assassin where she gets healed when she hits an enemy she gets a heal equal to the bonus damage on her passive but reduced to 25 or 50% of its healing when using it on minions that way she takes more risk if she wants to keep her health high.

TLDR: I want to see Akali's heal back on her basic kit via her passive instead of her q.

Do you think Akali should have her heal back in a new form, her q again, or not have a heal still?

EDIT: My idea is not perfect and just because I want her heal back doesn't mean I want it back ASAP. Also I think fine in her current state she doesn't one yet but if she's weak that's what I would want back.

12 Comments

G Master Hung4 votes

Literally, no assassin has healing in their kit(that's a mid laner) I'm glad she has no heal anymore. It gave quite possibly the most mobile assassin a slow, heal, and went in tandem with her passive giving her movement speed and an auto attack enhancer. Way too overstat

DCYOUNG8881 votes

You got a good point there, yeah my idea isn't perfect and at the state she is in I would rather wait and see how she keeps performing in the future. Also the only assassin in the mid lane I can think of that can heal is Ekko but that's only on his ult and is meant to recover the health he lost but you make a good point there.

DalekZec3 votes

If you want her heal back then at least remove like 4-6 out of 8 random crap that she already has in her Passive + Q.

Otherwise, she'll be even a bigger middle finger to players frustration and fairness than she already is now (or back to the worse at least).

boricCentaur12 votes

I don't think you know akali's passive is or what the word random means.

DalekZec1 votes

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I don't think you know akali's passive is or what the word random means.

(Before nerf) Passive- when hit an ability get an empowered ranged auto that restores energy and scales well on AD and AP and form a ring around enemy that at 1st grants movement speed and another movement speed when crossing the ring.

Q- aoe damage that heals, and slows the enemy and low CD.

Tell me all this shit is needed in her kit. Does she really need AD and AP scaling? Does she really need a slow?

This is the definition of shit design if you're gonna shove this much stuff on just 2 abilities up. How is this healthy and how it even got approved just disgusts me. I've seen bs design champions but this one is champion of bullshit design champions and if Morello was still here, do you think even half this stuff would have went through?

boricCentaur11 votes

Are you trolling? Like you give 0 reasons all you said was that akali has too much like wtf and there is not too much stuff no matter how you say it, so stop being biased and THINK.

Why does it scale off of ad and ap since that's part of her theme people would be mad if it didn't,

why does it have a slow so they have trouble running from her so she can auto attack from her passive and almost every assassin has cc soooo idk why your problem with it on her is,

It restores energy since akali has VERY high energy cost so it increases the skill cap and lets players avoid having some of the problems with having high energy cost,

Why the heal go play akali without gunblade since she is a very different champion then in terms how good she is and how good she feels like that's why there was a heal akali feels and plays much better with one since she takes too much damage in a fight and if gunblade was not in the game they probably would of kept the heal.

Any thing else your going to say is unnecessary like it's really really easy to list a champions kit and say it's overload and you can do it too almost every champion.

Morello designed one champion Zyra who has been one of the most hated supps and has caused a lot of problems sooo yeah akali probably would of gone though.

DalekZec1 votes

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Are you trolling? Like you give 0 reasons all you said was that akali has too much like wtf and there is not too much stuff no matter how you say it, so stop being biased and THINK.

Why does it scale off of ad and ap since that's part of her theme people would be mad if it didn't,

why does it have a slow so they have trouble running from her so she can auto attack from her passive and almost every assassin has cc soooo idk why your problem with it on her is,

It restores energy since akali has VERY high energy cost so it increases the skill cap and lets players avoid having some of the problems with having high energy cost,

Why the heal go play akali without gunblade since she is a very different champion then in terms how good she is and how good she feels like that's why there was a heal akali feels and plays much better with one since she takes too much damage in a fight and if gunblade was not in the game they probably would of kept the heal.

Any thing else your going to say is unnecessary like it's really really easy to list a champions kit and say it's overload and you can do it too almost every champion.

Morello designed one champion Zyra who has been one of the most hated supps and has caused a lot of problems sooo yeah akali probably would of gone though.

Am I trolling? No I'm lying. I made all that up out of thin air. What 0 reason? The stupid champion has unnecessary things in her kit and is real pain in the ass even if she's weak or if you stomp her.

I can understand her energy restoration but why does she have to have movement speed buffs? 2 even? And having a slow is an over kill since she has again, TWO FUCKIN MOVEMENT SPEED BUFFS!

There are plenty of champions that are not overloaded. Xerath for example. Even Sion.

And Zyra was meant to be a mid laner. Not a support. I remember Zyra mid in like season 4 and 5. But because of how abused she was in support you started to think she's an actual support. Just like how Yasuo is placed in the marksmen role. He's not an adc.

VoraciousX2 votes

If she were to get her heal back, she'd probably have to either pay for it with something else(maybe less duration on W), or have it be so rare that it hardly matters that she has it(like on one of her ults). Her old passive gave her lifesteal and spellvamp and was called twin dragons wasn't it? Perhaps her new ult could signify that by her first giving her lifesteal, and her second giving her spellvamp? Although something would have to be removed for that to be given to her. Perhaps the mini stun on her ult, but then again that feels pretty necessary to her kit, especially against Katarina. Her combined lifesteal and spellvamp were the only reason she ever went gunblade to begin with, to synergize with that, so it feels kinda core to her kit, but at the same time, Akali has always been frustrating to play against, even pre-rework.

DCYOUNG8881 votes

Think the mini-stun on her ult is meant so she can disrupt briefly like the channels you mentioned and allow her time to run back in (with her passive and to cook the 2nd part of the ult). Indeed something might have to be removed if her heal is added back (like you said the w or readjust her kit elsewhere) but do note that if she has her heal on her passive she needs to land an ability on an enemy champion to activate her passive which means she's at risk of taking poke damage (especially from ranged champs) when she approaches them even if she gains ms when chasing them.

VoraciousX1 votes

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Think the mini-stun on her ult is meant so she can disrupt briefly like the channels you mentioned and allow her time to run back in (with her passive and to cook the 2nd part of the ult). Indeed something might have to be removed if her heal is added back (like you said the w or readjust her kit elsewhere) but do note that if she has her heal on her passive she needs to land an ability on an enemy champion to activate her passive which means she's at risk of taking poke damage (especially from ranged champs) when she approaches them even if she gains ms when chasing them.

Yeah but her passive with gunblade is pretty strong in healing already because of how much damage it does.

VolatileAkali2 votes

No heal = Core identity removed.

Poske1 votes

Her Q has like 99% hitrate. How about we nerf that... Thats my number one issue with her

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