Why are there no AD support items?

Trias000··4 votes·664 views

I know item 3142 item 3147 item 3071 are good for supports (Youmuu's = item 3117, Duskblade = item 2047 and Black Cleaver increases the adc's damage), but AD champions lack a starting item like item 3303 and a sightstone upgrade. Maybe if such an item existed, it would create more diversity by making such champions viable as supports: MonkeyKing Vi Urgot Pantheon RekSai Renekton MissFortune JarvanIV Jayce Gnar Camille Ashe. I know it's unlikely, but who knows. At the very least we could mess around with those champs in normal games.

13 Comments

Ahris2 votes

Lets not add ad support items that adc may start abusing.

Trias0001 votes

Well, midlaners don't abuse item 3303 (they used to buy it, but it wasn't super op), tanks don't abuse item 3302, I don't even know who could abuse item 3301

D3m37r11 votes

Ad supports aren't a thing so no ad on support items.

iLBGAMing2 votes

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Ad supports aren't a thing so no ad on support items.

I wish it was a thing.

Winek Chan3 votes

Ashe was and is still considered a secondary support.

So, kinda.

Trias0001 votes

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Ad supports aren't a thing so no ad on support items.

That's my point. Let's make them a thing.

iLBGAMing1 votes

I mean you can build these:

  • Enhance your ADC damage: item 3071

  • Reduce enemies lifesteal: item 3123 item 3033

  • To slow enemies: item 3022

Trias0001 votes

But still - no starting item and no sightstone upgrade.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

item 3142 - Just buy item 3117 item 3147 - Just buy item 3364 item 3071 - Just buy item 3050

Honestly, why waste a ton of gold for selfish items when you need to purchase item 3107 item 3190 item 3504 item 2045 for the team?

DeathBurst1 votes

So this is a bit complex.

What's a good support? It's a champion that is proportionately better than other champs when at low amounts of Gold and XP. This rule practically excludes all damage champs, and good supports have CC and/or buffs: they are Tanks or some subset of Mages.

So why is there some AP items, and no AD item for Support? Because AD is a stat used purely for damage, whereas AP is also used to scale some utility spells, and also heals and shields.

That being said, if you want to play Wukong/Vi/Urgot/etc. support in Normals, it's entirely possible to do it right now. Just start Relic Shield, and improvise from there. If you manage to do some early kills and are snowballing, buy some offensive items like duskblade or Triforce. If you're behind, build them Tank, with Knight's Vow, or Zeke. It won't work in super high MMR, but in Normals, it's totally viable.

Canonic1 votes

Because you're supporting someone else. You're not the person that's doing sustained auto attack damage, you cc, tank, heal, provide vision, etc.

Trias0001 votes

Why not both? There are/were AP or even tank supports that also deal damage: Annie Bard Brand Karma Leona Lulu Lux Malzahar Sona Zyra

Dr Dog1 votes

mf already is a support rn, well "support" aka one support item then all ad/lethality

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