Change surrender to 10 minutes - require 4/5 until 20.

fr0st2k·Apr 6, 2015·2 votes·656 views

that would be nice.

12 Comments

IcyPepperApr 6, 20153 votes

Do people not understand that most games aren't lost in the first ten minutes?

You can still win, but only if you're actually good enough to play when you're behind (and yes, pros are capable of doing this, it's not always 100% a sure win for one side. If you're going to copy their fotm LCS picks, then at least copy some of their GOOD habits).

Nucleophilic atkApr 6, 20151 votes

Yes, but if I have an afk, I want the game over as soon as possible.

IcyPepperApr 6, 20151 votes

That could be an exception, but could be unfair is someone dc's for a second during a connection interrupt and the team immediately surrenders in the span of 20 seconds.

It can happen, and it can be abused. :/

Sightless66Apr 6, 20151 votes

Just make it like Dota's. If someone is out for 5 minutes, everyone gets to leave. Also, allow pausing.

IcyPepperApr 6, 20151 votes

Pausing is already allowed in tournament draft, so we know that it could be implemented (but would need some kind of rules, like break limits).

Though I suppose that's fair. Five minutes is enough time to restart your computer if needed. The power going out has no guarantee you can get back to your match, so might as well. Seems fair enough.

Sightless66Apr 6, 20152 votes

Regarding pausing rules, I love Dota's pausing rules. Anyone can unpause, you have to wait 30 seconds to unpause if someone is disconnected and you don't have to wait otherwise, you can only pause once every x period of time (I think it's once every 5 minutes in Dota but I'm not certain), and there is a 3 second delay both on pausing and unpausing to limit abuse. Would be a wonderful addition.

Nucleophilic atkApr 6, 20151 votes

I don't think a team is going to agree to a surrender vote 20 seconds after someone afks....they will at least give them some time to return.

Very Hard EngageApr 6, 20151 votes

only if it takes a full 5/5 then i would consider a 10minute surrender. even though its still entirely possible to comeback no matter how poorly you do in the first 10minutes. you cant go against it when all 5 players just dont want to be there.

fr0st2kApr 7, 20151 votes

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only if it takes a full 5/5 then i would consider a 10minute surrender. even though its still entirely possible to comeback no matter how poorly you do in the first 10minutes. you cant go against it when all 5 players just dont want to be there.

but thats if someone isnt AFK. 4/5 is a solid amount of surrenders. it means virtually the entire team thinks you lost. Youre acting like 1 person can end the game...thats obviously not true.