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Diamond is starting to feel like a show whose tickets have been sold out long ago

s LessThanThree··1 votes·759 views

I think I've legitimately hit the place in the ranked ladder where no matter what you do as a single player, if more people on your team do badly than on their team, you will lose without a question. Ofc if you are 10-0 there's a chance you'll carry but mid to high Plat players will not usually keep running at you giving you kills over and over. Some might, but for most games that will not be the case, and you'll only have a minor lead. On the other hand, my botlane will often feed hard, even in a 2v2 scenario. I look at 25 minutes our support is 0-9. This happened two games in a row. Don't take this as a oh my team is so bad complain thread, it isn't quite that. If you look at my ranked stats for the last few games I admit I did not do well in a few of them, but overall, I perform solid. I only rarely am able to say, "I was the reason my team lost" or, "my decision there cost us the game." It happens, but is not the case.

I learn from my mistakes like that time I went essence reaver on lucian. It's not the best. But the more I play the more I feel helpless, as just a cog in this machine where if another cog is rusty will fall apart and fail. Playing ranked solo queue is just a demeaning experience that makes me feel powerless.

I have considered playing ADC as it has the most - lategame power, early dragon control, and if fed, will have 2-3 fed players, rather than if just mid or top wins - 1 fed player, as the jg will most likely be focused bot. However, I don't have a support main to duo with, and the supports I get in solo queue can be hit or miss awesome or just 0-4 by 10 minutes.

I just don't understand - sometimes the more a person kills my teammate the more inclined they seem to try fighting them again.

I'm sure if I had a consistently good support I could carry out of Plat, but I dunno if thats the case. My main to carry out of silver was Garen top, but he is not a viable carry anymore in Gold. In Gold, I carried with Viktor mid, but midlane just cant carry in Plat unless extremely fed, so I am just thinking of ADC. Just nobody in solo usually wants to support or has it as their main, so I'm stuck with some bitter bozo who feeds their ass off 80% of the time.

Almost everyone in Diamond is an adc main, or at least the majority is, and that says a lot. I've heard that even Challenger players have trouble solo-carrying out of Gold. GOLD LEAGUE. That's something.

I know the whole "You've reached your skill cap yada yada" shpiel but I kind of have to disagree. I play in tournaments with my premade team and we have more than once faced diamond opposition and gone even/won before. If I can lane against Diamond 3-5s in the mid lane, I should be able to get out of Plat. Isn't that the idea?

Either way. Please offer your opinions on this and any advice you may have. I would greatly appreciate it summoner 3

3 Comments

Heliostorm2 votes

If I can lane against Diamond 3-5s in the mid lane, I should be able to get out of Plat.

No, there's so much more to this game than laning, please stop thinking this. How well you do in lane says only a little about how good you are at this game.

s LessThanThree1 votes

This is true, but like I said, we have beaten them outside of lane as well. I catch myself making mistakes outside of lane time from time, but overall I am good at making calls, but that Mundo that goes 1v4 or that Amumu that recalls 10 seconds before dragon respawns despite your pings tends to put holes into your plans, you know?

NoMonku1 votes

I'll just tell you from experience. It doesn't matter HOW well you do in your role. Unless you can SUPER carry, like double digit kills by the 10-20 minute mark, it doesn't really matter which role you go into. If you want to carry, though, I do think that mid/jungler is the best role, as those two have the easiest ability to make plays across the map without it being pretty obvious. Also, from the games I've played, if you are playing with people who actually WANT to win and don't just start to pout and/or rage/grief at their teammates/enemies, it is always better to be behind the enemy, as in losing early on. It always seems to work this way because the losing teams ONLY real way back into the game is teamwork, which is obviously superior to being able to outplay 1v1. Ya, the fed Draven can win in bot lane, but not much he can do when the mid and/or jungler comes and stuns him, resulting in his death and then the tower/dragon. A lot of players, no matter what level of play, kind of get a riders high when they start going on a killing spree, which can also cause a rubber band effect because when they finally do start to get caught out and die, they can't really put on the breaks as fast as they need to because they didn't really think/believe they could die.

I'm just rambling now, so I'll finish with this. While it seems you want to get to diamond and it is a good goal, I think you should consider trying to just work on self improvement. As a team game that DOES rely on teamwork (to some degree at least) just know that there is only so much to do and the rest is up to some benevolent being coughRIOTcough to hope you get teammates that don't just feed and/or ragequit. Just try to master everything to a degree where you're satisfied and keep moving on. Also you can try to watch other people who are better then you and try to learn from them (if you can learn that way). The last and WORST possibility is that you could have reached your actual "peak" or "potential" for the game, though I don't really think this is the case. Just keep working at it and you should be able to carry yourself out of your hole. If you start to drop drastically, though, is when you will know you have started to fall.

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