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Reduce LP loss for AFK

TheRavenKnight1··14 votes·9,492 views

While playing ranked, I find my team losing quite a lot because of other team members going afk, causing an unfair match. This takes away the same amount of LP as losing a fair match. It's very hard to climb up in ranks without a team when this is the norm now. Maybe LP loss can be based on the letter ranking of how well you played your champion. (If you have an A ranking on a losing team, you lose less LP).

What you all think??? Rakan

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Pyrosan10 votes

The argument Riot's made against this kind of thing is that all everyone would have to do is pressure and be toxic to one individual to go AFK, since they believe they're going to lose anyway they might aswell get their own loss deducted, it's too inconsistent of a system to be implicated so I support Riot on not adding it unless they can counter-act that aspect

General Esdeath 8 votes

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The argument Riot's made against this kind of thing is that all everyone would have to do is pressure and be toxic to one individual to go AFK, since they believe they're going to lose anyway they might aswell get their own loss deducted, it's too inconsistent of a system to be implicated so I support Riot on not adding it unless they can counter-act that aspect

Someone should remind Riot we have a mute button. The abuse excuse is absolute bullshit. Remake is abused, Riot still hasn't removed/changed that.

Simply make it so the AFK person has to be gone for a set amount of time, and start being harsher on people who hit escape, leave game, I understand. If Riot would actually punish people, this wouldn't be a problem.

Pyrosan1 votes

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Someone should remind Riot we have a mute button. The abuse excuse is absolute bullshit. Remake is abused, Riot still hasn't removed/changed that.

Simply make it so the AFK person has to be gone for a set amount of time, and start being harsher on people who hit escape, leave game, I understand. If Riot would actually punish people, this wouldn't be a problem.

Riot knows their community is toxic though so it's absolutely an excuse in my opinion, they can't police everything minor sadly and there's other ways to convince people to make you go AFK - gameplay such as following them around the map and stealing all their stuff, for one

General Esdeath 4 votes

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Riot knows their community is toxic though so it's absolutely an excuse in my opinion, they can't police everything minor sadly and there's other ways to convince people to make you go AFK - gameplay such as following them around the map and stealing all their stuff, for one

Then let them, I'll gladly report someone griefing in my games if Riot would actually punish them instead of giving the "uwu it's a bad match uwu they're not toxic uwu" excuse. I've had bad games, I've seen people have bad games, running around spamming emotes and telling your junglers location in all chat isn't a bad game, and Riot refuses to improve the IFS any farther than a word search program looking for hate speech.

Pyrosan2 votes

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Then let them, I'll gladly report someone griefing in my games if Riot would actually punish them instead of giving the "uwu it's a bad match uwu they're not toxic uwu" excuse. I've had bad games, I've seen people have bad games, running around spamming emotes and telling your junglers location in all chat isn't a bad game, and Riot refuses to improve the IFS any farther than a word search program looking for hate speech.

Well from my perspective reporting doesn't work as it is so I don't wanna be encouraging the behaviour of people being passive aggressive to the weakest person on the team to force them to AFK.

I just got out of a game not too long ago of someone who got autofilled to support and said "time to make us ff 15" - followed me around in my JG as rammus with smite, would flash over to my camps to smite steal them etc and I was tempted to AFK, that would then reduce the LP loss for this individual while I'm being outed by Riot and the team - implying the system is put in place

For what the OP is suggesting to be effective they're gonna have to actually moderate players instead of whatever they're doing right now and I think we've both agreed on that lol but in concept it's a solid idea - in execution due to the player base not so much

TheRavenKnight11 votes

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The argument Riot's made against this kind of thing is that all everyone would have to do is pressure and be toxic to one individual to go AFK, since they believe they're going to lose anyway they might aswell get their own loss deducted, it's too inconsistent of a system to be implicated so I support Riot on not adding it unless they can counter-act that aspect

I completely agree with the toxic aspect of it and how it would be a very inconsistent system if they based it on if someone got marked for AFK. But I think that your champion rating for how you played , that populates at the end of the match, should shield your from some LP loss. I understand that there has to be some negative aspect of losing the game though.

CarpeConundrum1 votes

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I completely agree with the toxic aspect of it and how it would be a very inconsistent system if they based it on if someone got marked for AFK. But I think that your champion rating for how you played , that populates at the end of the match, should shield your from some LP loss. I understand that there has to be some negative aspect of losing the game though.

"Hurr durr, this idea is bad because a team that is losing might pressure someone to leave the game by stealing their stuff while everyone's turtled in the base because we're losing so bad" - Riot

Riot are a bunch of fucking r%%%%%s who don't know the first thing about their player base. The most toxic and most common kind of asshole is the sonovabitch who does dumb shit just to spite his team. The odds of someone being "forced" to afk or leave are next to zero when most people would rather run down mid and int to make sure the people on their team lose just for "stealing" a kill 20 minutes ago. The average league player is a fucking idiot. Riot has no excuse.

Hexa XV2 votes

This argument is so stupid xD Where is the logic here? So team will make one person go AFK by flame (risking being banned for flame) to lose less LP than normally? I want to know the name of the genius who said that.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

This kind of situation maybe will happen like once on 100 games or less. And still team with AFK deserves less LP for lose because the afking person could just mute everyone and play.

TheRavenKnight11 votes

Maybe you should re-read....... Situation 1: in short AFK player looses the max LP no matter what.

Situation 2: You still lose LP for losing but that amount differs depending on how you were graded in that match. (Rewarded for at least playing well) [zombie-brand-clap]

You should read more than the title. If you have any suggestions to improve this aspect of the game in solo queue and make it an even greater experience then lets hear it.

Velzard of Koz2 votes

And you should turn Chronological View off and maybe you would know he wasn't responding to you. Seriously, people who can't be bothered to think about context should use Discussion View.

TheRavenKnight11 votes

OOOOOps mybad!!! [slayer-jinx-wink]

Hexa XV1 votes

Telling me to learn to read while himself can't read.

Funny.

Aimléss3 votes

If I knew the people flaming me would not lose LP if I afk'd wtf would I afk lmao? What?

TheRavenKnight11 votes

Thats when you hit the mute and keep on pushing lol and report at the end but .......I don't think they really keep up with reporting sooooo I see your point lmao

Sinister Anubis5 votes

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While playing ranked, I find my team losing quite a lot because of other team members going afk, causing an unfair match. This takes away the same amount of LP as losing a fair match. It's very hard to climb up in ranks without a team when this is the norm now. Maybe LP loss can be based on the letter ranking of how well you played your champion. (If you have an A ranking on a losing team, you lose less LP).

What you all think??? Rakan

To abusable in duo que you'd have to remove duo's and only apply it to solo games.

TheRavenKnight14 votes

Agreed 100%. Don't have many friends that play League and its much harder to rank up in solo que because of this.

Thorongil3 votes

Loosing LP of all players support toxicity in game. LP loss should be reduced to zero in match with leavers. Only AFKers should lose LP. This change would have no negative impact on game. It also would have one great positivity - players with lags and bad internet connection would not be treated as shit by teammates.

KFCeytron1 votes

There can never be a reason in favor of engaging in undesirable behavior like AFKing. We want to see less of that behavior, not more.

SiG DxD1 votes

messed up systems lose 5v4 and enemy gets full lp and we lose full hp

Nea1041 votes

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Maybe LP loss can be based on the letter ranking of how well you played your champion. (If you have an A ranking on a losing team, you lose less LP).

That would be nice, but letter grades are terribly flawed. And they get lower when you lose, so they finally should fix them, to begin with.

Sonic Adventure1 votes

I really don't want more stuff teammates can say to flame each other "it's lost / you're bad go afk pls".

Even if that actually doesn't result in the person going afk, it's going to encourage negative conversations that don't help the game at all.

The introduction of ff at 15 had its benefits but it's also a feature for negative people to rage and get angry when one person votes no.

My experience is that many people lose a game from giving up early so I'm not a fan of all these "loss mitigations" that favor doing that.

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