@meddler let's talk about the new thunderlord rune?

Siegfriedx1··5 votes·494 views

I like that you guys are thinking of new ways of adding old masteries as runes, but this particular rune felt really as a generic damage boost that dont fit in the original idea of what runes are trying to address.

Other runes have conditions like: "it will be active after 10 minutes" or "only work against ranged champions" or "it create a projectile that can be avoided" etc.

This new thunder Lord give you 200 damage with a large cooldown.Thats it.

It's plain 200 more damage.

How is this not going to get mandatory in so many champions? What kind of decision making its involved on picking this rune? What makes it have a trade off for kassadin? Diana? Zed?

It's clear that if we add raw damage and power boosts without thinking too much about it that we would see another league of thunderlords happening and I think we don't want that.

Could thunderlords be more situational? Like a rune that only works when there is 2 or less enemy champions nearby? I feel that in the way it is its just raw power that everyone will get and use to explode everyone when the cooldown is off. We could even have a counter part, of a thunderlord that just works when there is 2 or more enemies nearby. So you can pick focusing on team fights or lane phase!

I can see situations like that popping: "why you picked thunderlord?" "I'm playing Kass dude"

or

"why are you not playing thunderlord Zed?" " I thought this other one was cool" "noob go learn math and pick the right rune next time"

I personally feel we don't need raw power boosts that don't add any thinking on the game.

13 Comments

Cocho3 votes

I wish they just removed it. I hate playing around the cooldown when trading. Both laners are most likely going to have it mid.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

??? But lol is the game where u play around it (u already know this i guess)

Cocho1 votes

Its just more sitting around and scratching my ass

Kyunsei3 votes

Let's see all the new keystones first shall we?

Also the 50 seconds cooldown already is enough to be outclassed for certain champion by Meteor or pixie-thingy.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Also it no longer auto-procs from DoT type abilities like Make it Rain or Morgana pool. You have to hit them with 3 delegate sources of damage

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Well i then hope for some GP buffs without thunderlords he is completely unviable.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Um, how? Barrel/parley, 2 autos, boom proced. Each auto counts as a separate damage source, it's not like you need 3 individual damage sources in your kit to even use the thing

DaNinad1 votes

Gangplank doesn't need buffs even without thunderlords. I think 1400 damage barrels are enough lol

Siegfriedx11 votes

It's OK if other options come and make the choice more meaningful, but all choices on the new rune system should have downsides depending of the situation.

If thunderlord could generally be more specific to a certain condition I think it could be good too.

Weasel Kensei2 votes

This is actually not to bad of a suggestion. Thunderlords for one or two pepople, and a "static shiv" like rune for more.

Though I think just taking mindless burst damage out of the choices may be the best solution because damage is damage, and a good offense is the best defense as they say.

Im all for a solo vs AoE burst choice with number of opponents as the condition because that would require thinking and strategy where "duz moar daymudg" isnt really a choice so much as "What is busted enough for me to even consider taking over more burst?"

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

U already have some choice :

  • taking Stormlord : gaining a huge burst, and become naked every 50sec
  • take Spellslinger : gain a ms and slow resist every 15sec
  • or bloodmoon : ms + burst but naked during 180 sec
Friendly Ram1 votes

Is there a full list of the new runes anywhere? I've only seen the three small pages here.

Sukishoo1 votes

We don't even know all the runes throughout the trees. So it's hard to say what will be the point behind this one until they reveal the rest.

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