It is not that hard. It really isn't to walk into a god damn lane and just attack the enemy champion.
Tons of ways to do it, and for some fucking reason every single jungler on my team up and decides it just isn't possible and sits in the jungle all god damn game and then complains as to why the team is so far behind.
Leti the Yeti13 votescome into lane and attack the champ? how bout i stay in the lane with ya?
I cant be wasting my time babysitting a lane that is YOUR job to do well in
No one comes saves us from counter junglers It is not that hard. It really isn't to walk into the god damn jungle and just attack the enemy champion. Tons of ways to do it, and for some fucking reason every single laner on my team up and decides it just isn't possible and sits in the lane all god damn game and then complains as to why the jungler is so far behind.
lol, cuz they have their own job
the meta has already shfited from less gank heavy champions because jungle sustain is pretty brutal
theres only 1 jungler and 3 lanes, and the map is pretty big and if say, you had a warwick jungler or master yi... dont expect any ganks till he gets his ult wasting time trying to gank yo mtherfking lanes is just gonna delay him from getting it sooner
Sir Vegeta3 votescome into lane and attack the champ? how bout i stay in the lane with ya?
I cant be wasting my time babysitting a lane that is YOUR job to do well in
No one comes saves us from counter junglers It is not that hard. It really isn't to walk into the god damn jungle and just attack the enemy champion. Tons of ways to do it, and for some fucking reason every single laner on my team up and decides it just isn't possible and sits in the lane all god damn game and then complains as to why the jungler is so far behind.
lol, cuz they have their own job
the meta has already shfited from less gank heavy champions because jungle sustain is pretty brutal
theres only 1 jungler and 3 lanes, and the map is pretty big and if say, you had a warwick jungler or master yi... dont expect any ganks till he gets his ult wasting time trying to gank yo mtherfking lanes is just gonna delay him from getting it sooner
I came here just to say you are seriously stupid. Jungling was invented to gank. Back in the day..the days where you coul6d not level up in jungle past level 6 with ease, Ganking was needed to get leveled up. Ever since they added to the jungle making it possible to level up, junglers have gradually forgotten the whole purpose of jungling and something in their heads made them think its to farm farm farm.
Saying "I cant be wasting my time babysitting a lane that is YOUR job to do well in" just sounds like you dont even give a damn about the team or whether you win or lose. you're just in it to see your build grow.
So let me explain how junglers ganking benifits the team. If a jungler enters a lane and doesnt kill anyone. it puts pressure off the lane giving your team breathing room and possibly saving the turret...turrets are vital to winning the game If a jungler does get a kill he gets gold. If he doesn get the kill and just assist, he gets assist gold. If theirs no enemies in the lane due to killing them. bam turret wide open for the taking. 400 for first turret destroyed and 300 for every other turret.. Ganking helps the team win the game by offering a big advantage in the lane. either a 2vs1 fight or 3vs2 fight. If jungler were to get kills plus turret. thats about 900-1400 gold in a matter of a couple minutes.
Now when the turret falls. Guess what that does? it frees up the lane so those laners can also gank.
Ever wondered why junglers that gank often tend to win the game?
Aliens Are Real3 votesA jungler should gank. If you disagree you're stupid and this is why... I'll use an analogy to make it obvious. Soccor. Imagine the goal keeper is the jungler and defense/offense are the laners. Saying a jungler doesn't have to gank is like saying a goal keeper doesn't have to protect the net and it's the other player's fault that the opponent scored. By the time the jungler aka goal keeper starts helping the team, they'll be too far behind and it won't matter.
HaIlMonitor1 votesThe problem is from my large experience in jungle is the laners want junglers to Protect the net, get the ball all the way to the other side of the field, BUT let the laner score the goal. We cant just set up everything then let you get a free kill. It takes both players.
EndlessSorcerer11 votesSpeaking from personal experience, if I find a laner is constantly pushing or raging about the lack of ganks they received, I'm more likely to just mute them and focus on other lanes.
It isn't the jungler's job to win lane; that's the laner's job. The jungler's job is to take advantage of a 4th source of gold and experience (the jungle) so that their team has access to more resources (3 Lanes + Jungle > 3 Lanes) and to control objectives (Baron, Dragon, Buff Camps, Towers).
ˆˆºº8 votesSpeaking from personal experience, if I find a laner is constantly pushing or raging about the lack of ganks they received, I'm more likely to just mute them and focus on other lanes.
When I'm laning, I make sure to let my jungler know when and where my opponent has warded and what defensive summoners they have used. If they decide to gank my lane with that knowledge, I'm thankful. Otherwise, I'm quite capable of winning, or surviving if necessary, an even lane without feeding.
Oh god when I get ward pings how I love to gank for those lanes. You KNOW they play jungle and will not fuck up your gank on you.
KlydeFrog1 votesikr, top lane over extended the whole time top laner dying to other top laner, my top laner raging on how i wont gank lol
AtheosisX5 votesIt is not that hard. It really isn't to walk into a god damn lane and just attack the enemy champion.
Tons of ways to do it, and for some fucking reason every single jungler on my team up and decides it just isn't possible and sits in the jungle all god damn game and then complains as to why the team is so far behind.
The jungler on your team is not there to win your lane for you.
Fury and Emperor5 votesThis is the new S5 jungle.
Be glad when the jungler doesn't die to the jungle and instead limps home with 100 hp. It's all we can manage for the first 10 minutes of the game. Eventually we become strong enough to kill the crab in less than 5 minutes and then we can gank.
ˆˆºº4 votesEvery laner who needs a 2v1 every 5seconds while a jungler is ganking bot, top and mid lane as often as makes logical sense should be dipped in an industrial deep fryer. joking aside
Jungler makes calls on when and where to gank not the laner. If you can't win your lane how is that a jungler's fault? Play safe, ward, and mayhaps the jungler will sense your plight and come help.
Ligerzz4 votesPerma banned? No that's just stupid. It isn't the jungle'rs responsibility to care for your lane especially. Besides, the new meta and jungle have affected all junglers heavily, and people still aren't used to the new changes. But it should be your job to do well in lane.
But seriously. Perma banned?
blank4201 votesthey are retarded top laner "jax mains" who think theire gods when theire 0/454/3 cuz u ganked him 3 times in the first 3 minutes and then ganked other lanes
Yoella4 votesYou, sir, are probably an ADC main aren't you.
Zakennayo2 votesSo reading these comments explains a lot as to why there are so many shit junglers.
YES It is the job of the jungler to ensure the victory of the lanes. That's the whole POINT of the role. Otherwise why doesn't Riot just remove jungle? Just have duo top and have mid roam!
The new jungle brings back the hard leash. Not that retarded one shot poke crap that everyone enjoys doing. A hard leash being doing high amounts of damage to speed up jungler.
leg fetish6 votesSo reading these comments explains a lot as to why there are so many shit junglers.
YES It is the job of the jungler to ensure the victory of the lanes. That's the whole POINT of the role. Otherwise why doesn't Riot just remove jungle? Just have duo top and have mid roam!
The new jungle brings back the hard leash. Not that retarded one shot poke crap that everyone enjoys doing. A hard leash being doing high amounts of damage to speed up jungler.
It'd be easier just to remove you from boards tbh
AtheosisX4 votesSo reading these comments explains a lot as to why there are so many shit junglers.
YES It is the job of the jungler to ensure the victory of the lanes. That's the whole POINT of the role. Otherwise why doesn't Riot just remove jungle? Just have duo top and have mid roam!
The new jungle brings back the hard leash. Not that retarded one shot poke crap that everyone enjoys doing. A hard leash being doing high amounts of damage to speed up jungler.
It is their job to help lanes and help their team overall. Their job is not to absolve you of your responsibilities in lane by being your personal assist machine.
Rustling Bush2 votesSo reading these comments explains a lot as to why there are so many shit junglers.
YES It is the job of the jungler to ensure the victory of the lanes. That's the whole POINT of the role. Otherwise why doesn't Riot just remove jungle? Just have duo top and have mid roam!
The new jungle brings back the hard leash. Not that retarded one shot poke crap that everyone enjoys doing. A hard leash being doing high amounts of damage to speed up jungler.
It is their job to help lanes and help their team overall. Their job is not to absolve you of your responsibilities in lane by being your personal assist machine.
its their job to pressure lanes, if a lane feeds before he even has time to gank then avoid it like the fking plague, its a lost cause. but don't blame the jungle for your own incompetence when that happens and you wonder why he won't come into lane, especially when the new jungle was made to prevent early gank.
EndlessSorcerer6 votesIt isn't the jungler's job to win lane; that's the laner's job. The jungler's job is to take advantage of a 4th source of gold and experience (the jungle) so that their team has access to more resources (3 Lanes + Jungle > 3 Lanes) and to control objectives (Baron, Dragon, Buff Camps, Towers).
Bears Dont Care2 votesReasons jungler's don't want to gank your lane. S5
Zakennayo2 votesYumm i was waiting for this:
1: The jungler should never have low health. Mana and Health pots exist for a reason. And for maybe 70g you can snowball your team to win.
2: There are bushes in the game for a reason. Use them to your advantage. Stay in bush and wait for your moment, it will always come.
3: Clearing jungler is less important than helping your team win the game. If you're having gold issues. Go gank a lane. 300g is better than 100g.
Bears Dont Care2 votesYumm i was waiting for this:
Mmkay
1: The jungler should never have low health. Mana and Health pots exist for a reason. And for maybe 70g you can snowball your team to win.
Cost of a ward: 75 gold. Cost of a pink ward: 100 gold Each pot: 35 gold.
This is not considering the fact that the pots restore a fixed amount of health, and a single buff monster can reduce your health by half even at level 6. You would be spending a large amount of gold on pots that normally would have gone into obtaining your jungle items. You can snowball a lane, but it means very little if you have a player who is always behind.
2: There are bushes in the game for a reason. Use them to your advantage. Stay in bush and wait for your moment, it will always come.
Wtf is 
3: Clearing jungler is less important than helping your team win the game. If you're having gold issues. Go gank a lane. 300g is better than 100g.
Ganking a lane does not mean you are guaranteed to obtain a kill. That time you are not in your jungle while ganking, is lost gold and exp. If you hyper gank, but your opponents aren't stupid and push too deep while low on health, thats gold you are not making. That's exp you are not gaining.
Jungling is not your main position, you shouldn't comment on it if you have no experience or knowledge on the subject.
Terff2 votesI agree completely, many times have I been in the middle of getting blue buff and people start pinging the shit outa me, or when I'm not even past level 3 and they are already pissin their pants cuz they aren't getting ganks, the world doesn't revolve around you. OR when I'm halfway across the map maybe clearing red camp and you start pinging for me up top, nah I aint doing that I'll get to you in my time. If you're having trouble hug turret and don't be a total idiot. Also if I have no mana, or no health and I am not in optimal position to gank I wont, and if you are pushing the shit outa their turret I can't fucking gank you without doing some crazy suicide shit. And if you fed your lane thats your problem for not being safe enough. Ganking a fed lane is not recommended because it will just give them 2 more kills.
Also if we're ganking lanes all the time that gives the enemy time to steal buffs, and if we don't get the kill we're losing xp and getting behind.
Zakennayo1 votesYumm i was waiting for this:
Mmkay
1: The jungler should never have low health. Mana and Health pots exist for a reason. And for maybe 70g you can snowball your team to win.
Cost of a ward: 75 gold. Cost of a pink ward: 100 gold Each pot: 35 gold.
This is not considering the fact that the pots restore a fixed amount of health, and a single buff monster can reduce your health by half even at level 6. You would be spending a large amount of gold on pots that normally would have gone into obtaining your jungle items. You can snowball a lane, but it means very little if you have a player who is always behind.
70g for 400 hp. 400 hp at level 6 which is already stretching the level you should be when you start ganking, is enough for a good chunk of health.
2: There are bushes in the game for a reason. Use them to your advantage. Stay in bush and wait for your moment, it will always come.
Wtf is
Must not exist then.. Guess Wards are completely invincible!!
3: Clearing jungler is less important than helping your team win the game. If you're having gold issues. Go gank a lane. 300g is better than 100g.
Ganking a lane does not mean you are guaranteed to obtain a kill. That time you are not in your jungle while ganking, is lost gold and exp. If you hyper gank, but your opponents aren't stupid and push too deep while low on health, thats gold you are not making. That's exp you are not gaining.
It doesn't. But it gives you the chance. This whole game is based on being at the right spot at the right time, with proper coordination and team work. Which is what the game is all about!
Jungling is not your main position, you shouldn't comment on it if you have no experience or knowledge on the subject.
Not anymore. I used to play it back in S3 mainly. But I stopped cause I wanted to play other lanes like Mid and Top.
Bears Dont Care1 votes70g for 400 hp. 400 hp at level 6 which is already stretching the level you should be when you start ganking, is enough for a good chunk of health.
Its 300 gold. 360 if you have SV which really, by the time you have that you don't need pots anymore. Spending 70 gold per back deducts from the already poor gold income of a jungler. If I go gank your lane, and we don't succeed in a kill, that is gold loss for me unless I heavily tax your lane to make up the difference in gold and exp. Junglers are not laners. In S4 a jungler was behind in gold/exp to a laner In S5 pre-season, they are even further behind. There wasa 100 exp reduction, and the ability to clear camps was reduced unless you are udyr/warwck so less gold income.
Must not exist then.. Guess Wards are completely invincible!!
Didn't know you can only but 1 of and that could find every single ward you put down at once and had a short cooldown!
Nope.
It doesn't. But it gives you the chance. This whole game is based on being at the right spot at the right time, with proper coordination and team work. Which is what the game is all about!
This does not at all refute anything I said. The higher ELO you go, the better people become at warding, defensively positioning themselves, freezing lanes etc etc. Again, it is chance, and during that change you are missing out on a potential 60 gold guaranteed from a camp. Demanding junglers hyper gank for YOUR benefit at the cost of their own is not teamplay. At best, the gank fails and you put your opponent behind in CS, but it means nothing if your jungler is also behind. Even with constant farming, a jungler will be at least 1 to 2 levels under a mid laner. So your chances at a successful gank are lower than in s4.
Not anymore. I used to play it back in S3 mainly. But I stopped cause I wanted to play other lanes like Mid and Top.
Then perhaps you should go and do the new jungle sometime.
Extricate1 votes[deleted]
Lucian Waifu1 votesStop, this thread was from 4 years ago and op hasn't even posted anything in 2 years...
Ehrlich Mar2 votesWhen I jungle, I don't gank losing lanes. Obviously a losing lane is high-priority to be ganked by the enemy jungler because they also want a piece of the pie, and you're already down significantly, so I can't risk feeding more gold to your opponent. Sorry dude, but if you have a beef with your jungler during the laning phase, step up your game; you're not doing enough.
ˆˆºº1 votesNew thing is to go feed the lanes where your team is literally on their tower and pinging for gank.
Sooko1 votesTrick2G disapproves
JafarThePanda1 votesI'll make sure to all chat where you are in game then if you bitch at me for not ganking your bronze ass.
MohawkBird1 votesLaners who can't win their lane should be perma-banned.
TeelTeemò1 votesI 100% agree, i had a jung that was focusing on the loosing bot side whilst i was stomping top and he was overextending, but then the enemy team decides to sit 3 people top and ******* BABY SIT THE ENEMY LANER ALL ******* GAME, and the ******** jung DOES JACK **** sitting in bot complaning about me loosing top, AND MID Doesnt ss and enemy mid laner literaly sitting top for 10 mins. and cus of this stupid ******* tank meta the enemy laner is going full tank so his whole team can just ******* throw themselves at me. God this game is so fun in this meta....
KlydeFrog1 votesthe same can be said for people not supp. supp is the easiest role in the game however its also the most boring role and youre the team slave
Extricate1 votesShow's how absolutely FUCKING STUPID the community of LoL is when -42 to a FUCKING HONEST AND REAL POST. SORRY KIDDIES YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH OR REALITY OF LIFE. GO MAKE UR REPORTS CAUSE YOU SUCK AT LEAGUE AND FUCKN' CRY BECAUSE UR A MILLENNIAL SNOWFLAKE.
Sasogwa1 votesShow's how absolutely FUCKING STUPID the community of LoL is when -42 to a FUCKING HONEST AND REAL POST. SORRY KIDDIES YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH OR REALITY OF LIFE. GO MAKE UR REPORTS CAUSE YOU SUCK AT LEAGUE AND FUCKN' CRY BECAUSE UR A MILLENNIAL SNOWFLAKE.
Nice 3 year old necro, genius
KZ Engel2 votesKZ Engel1 votesThings that determine whether or not the jungler will gank: • kill pressure • carry potential • enemy snowball threat • counter gank potential • risk of losing objective on other side of the map • return gank potential
bolded is the important one. you gank winning lanes, not losing ones. if you can get a good player out of their lane and into others, you can end faster. if the guy gets solo killed in the first 5 minutes, there's no point in ganking for him. he won't be able to use it, even if it does result in a kill.
(edit) why do i keep getting baited into responding to a necro thread
ModEvangele1 votes
Locking this necro
