can zyras plants only target champs if she hits abilities

KennysDreamGirl·Jan 28, 2018·3 votes·462 views

"General Removed: Thornspitters and Vine Lashers will no longer always target nearby enemy champions on-spawn instead of the closest enemy unit, even if the ability that spawned them didn't hit a champion. " this was 7.3

from my understanding that means they should only target you if she hits a spell but even when that patch went out her plants would always target me. i would like to be able to lane when someone picks this cancer as support please

correct me if mim wrong tho

5 Comments

ApexInTheCircleJan 28, 20181 votes

I'm okay with this as long as we amp up the damage on her plants or scaling. Because everything she does is delayed or avoidable this would hurt her so bad she would literally drop down to old olaf tier.

That being said I do agree that it is kinda dumb for free poke, but that's what she's balanced around, we would have to amp up her damage if that's the case.

KennysDreamGirlJan 28, 20181 votes

I'm fine with that. i just want to be able to lane without her being rewarded for missing everything

AzadetheJan 28, 20181 votes

Okay.

Plants that are activated by a skill that hits nothing will seek the closest target that is within their range. So, if you're alone and within range of a spawned plant, it will attack you. If you have minions closer to them than you, then they will attack the minions.
If the ability that spawned the plants, or a Zyra auto attack hits you, then the plants will prioritize the champion it hit.
Thornsplitters have a much longer range than Vinelashers, so a common tactic is to cast a Q behind minion lines, either on top of a champion, or in front of champions, but closer to the champs than to the minions.

That's how plants work in a nutshell.

KennysDreamGirlJan 29, 20181 votes

I never said I didn't know how they work. I just don't think she should get free damage for missing spells. All she has to do is just spam her plants and you can't cs or even hit the plants themselves without taking a butt load of damage and pushing your Lane under tower the whole time as well. Maybe if towers weren't wet paper it wouldn't be so bad since they wouldn't fall easily but right now it's just dumb

AzadetheJan 29, 20181 votes

technically it's not a miss. It's well calculated harassment. Her ACTUAL range of "hitting" is actually pretty small for a mage at 800, and she's immobile. Her root is a really low duration.
Adcs actually have some of the easiest effort dealing with them, and they get 5 gold per plant kill. It takes 2 auto attacks to kill a plant. Damage over times kill them almost instantaneously.
She hardly has spam. She can store 2 seeds and the others are completely random and require her not to be in bushes to spawn. The random ones you or a support can stomp before Zyra burns a skill to cast them. 2 in store isn't going to automatically kill you unless you refuse to build correctly versus her. Zyra has serious gaps in her casts, delays in the appearance of the casts, and the plants do trivial damage unless she just cast her ult on them. DoT combating builds dominate Zyra (ones with Second Wind, , Nullifying Orb)