What makes me question this is due to his E. It's an instant blink that I would say leaves no counter play other than standing away farther than 700 range. You don't know when he's going to e you. There's 0 room for reaction or counter play because of that, you never know when that E is coming until he's behind you and instantly combos you.
WalkingInACircle2 votesAssassin
Healthy
No.
Dominick Destine1 votesI tend to agree.
Talon needs a rework.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesNope. His entire playstyle revolves around being able to burst you before you can even react. He is basically a mid lane rengar.
DrNova1 votesThere is no counterplay to lb dash, Darius pull, morg ult, ect ect.
If you define counterplay loosely tons of things have no counterplay.
If you use a more realistic sense, counterplay would be abusing his melee status to poke him down to where him jumping on you would be a poor idea. And staying safer when he could maybe kill you. Ect ect.
weeaboomer2 votesThere is no counterplay to lb dash, Darius pull, morg ult, ect ect.
What? YOU KNOW when LB is dashing to you. Her dash is not instant... Initially she wants to Q you before she Ws, which leaves you a window of opportunity to try to dodge it as you know what comes after.
Darius' pull can be dealt with. For example walking up to him as vayne and then instantly pressing Q back to bait out his pull.
If you're anywhere near the edge of morg's ult, you can walk out of it easily. You can also Qss the stun portion of it. It takes a while for it to even stun you, and she has to be right in front of you.
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What? YOU KNOW when LB is dashing to you. Her dash is not instant... Initially she wants to Q you before she Ws, which leaves you a window of opportunity to try to dodge it as you know what comes after.
Darius' pull can be dealt with. For example walking up to him as vayne and then instantly pressing Q back to bait out his pull.
If you're anywhere near the edge of morg's ult, you can walk out of it easily. You can also Qss the stun portion of it. It takes a while for it to even stun you, and she has to be right in front of you.
All situational. And honestly, if he blinks to you, he is stuck there. If he can kill you, you should have stayed away from the assassin in the first place. If he can't kill you, then he is AAT your doorstep.
Either way he is fine. This is just another post to nitpick the game and complain, one of thousands.
Hayaishi21 votesNo he is not.
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesIs his assassination the healthiest? Not really, no. This is off put however, by his weaker early game and laning phase. Talon is a late game monster, that if you delay the game, will come back and murder our carry in the blink of an eye.
Pair this to Zed, who has a much safer laning phase, but the trade off is how unreliable his assassinations are.
weeaboomer1 votes
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesOk....?
It's pretty well regarded that Akali is pretty weak right now, so I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean
Mecha MaIphite1 votesHe's sort of feast or famine. Which is surprising because people claim he is healthier than Zed, who is the exact opposite. You won't do more than kill 1 person when you're fed, but you won't fall too far behind if you lose because you can farm and play safe. Whereas Talon is either useless or one shotting squishes with a basic combo while chunking teams with his ult.
z63XnLCMwX1 votesOther champions have instant cast spells too, does that make them not healthy?
It makes their kits harder to play against but doesn't make them cancer. I can easily list champions that doesn't have a blink and their spells take time to travel yet still cancerous as fuck.
- Ward hops takes time to travel but still cancerous
- Before her spears AP damage nerfs, you hear "sidestep the refrigerator hitbox spears"
- Look, vayne fed 0-10 and then proceeds to get a 1v5 pentakill because "muh lategame carry"
weeaboomer1 votes
This isn't even true.
Fitz n The Fool1 votesi think he's fine. is he more annoying than other assassins? fizz, LB, rengar, Zed are all more annoying