Ryze versus tanks, how do you damage them?

Joes··2 votes·615 views

Okay here is a scenario. You play mid go 1/1/0 ok cs. You group up and the fed yorick shows up and you cant even hurt him. What items besides liandries can a mage buy to counter these tanky champs? I mean at least ad champs have lord doms.

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Asayake 5150glow2 votes

item 3135

BluePolarizer1 votes

Positioning. Ryze is one of the best tank shredding mages, but 99% of people cannot play him at his true potential, which is why he is one of the best mids in competitive while one of the worst in solo queue.

GigglesO1 votes

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Okay here is a scenario. You play mid go 1/1/0 ok cs. You group up and the fed yorick shows up and you cant even hurt him. What items besides liandries can a mage buy to counter these tanky champs? I mean at least ad champs have lord doms.

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item 3135

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

item 3135 item 3020

TL;DR the more mPen you have, the better it is to get enough more mPen.

Percentile: 42% from void staff and piercing thoughts. Flat: 7.83 mPen from marks + 4.8 (at 6) from Precision + 15 from sorcs = 27.67 (+3.6 at 18)

That strips 111.67 MR off a tank with 200. Meaning you do 53% damage to them instead of 33%. Pretty big increase.

Someone with 40 MR takes a way bigger hit, leaving them at -4.47 MR (yes, this is possible, also why you do so much bonus magic damage to minions). They then take slightly increased magic damage instead of 71%.

Toss item 3151 (only efficient if you can make good use of the passive) on there for another +15 pen and try it at lv18.. -42% and -46.27 flat

200 MR now becomes 69.73, or 58% damage dealt to them.

That dumb ADC that never built a sash is now in deep negative MR and taking silly damage.

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