my adc got 1 shot by a syndra before every single fight. AMA on how bruisers and assassins are op

EternalShock·Mar 29, 2017·11 votes·2,130 views

all the syndra had to do was flash and press r.

kept telling the fucking moron to back off but since hes "offrole" it excuses playing like dogshit and having 0 kill participation for a whole 33 minute game.

fucking christ riot lol.

champs like syndra hwo are rewarded for pressing a button are hated on less than a champ that has to combo everything to even get within melee range upon exhaust and everything.

what a fucking joke.

balance team needs to be exhumed.

43 Comments

LauchmelderMar 29, 20176 votes

You know what's a fucking Joke? People that still think a Syndra can just press R to kill the ADC.

If the ADC has only the smallest bit of brainpower he'll make it impossible by building Maw.

And I'm gonna give you a proof on that when I get home in about 4 hours.

EternalShockMar 29, 20176 votes

http://prntscr.com/eprd82

dont bother.

LauchmelderMar 29, 20174 votes

0 MR Ezreal, 3 levels difference, invalid

SwiftKitten88Mar 29, 20175 votes

[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N8v6xEf,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-29T11:54:40.674+0000)

0 MR Ezreal, 3 levels difference, invalid

i think the biggest difference more than the lvl advantage, is the amount of gold/items he has at 19 min.. unless your crazy fed or can cs like these pros your NOT going to have that much gold worth of items

i mean how many CS do YOU get in a 19 min... and then do the math of how many "kills" worth of gold he has over your "normal opponent"

LauchmelderMar 29, 20171 votes

19 minutes on Syndra, let me check real fast (looking it up on the lolsumo app):

86 in the first 10 minutes, 80 between min 10 and 20. So 166CS in 20 Minutes, with 3 kills and 4 assists total.

That was my most recent game. Yes, I could just Q+R their Lucian, but it stopped working once he got Maw. After he got Maw I actually had to combo him to be able to do this. What I'm actually trying to stop is the idiotic false information of "just press R and delete the ADC".

KaìjuMar 29, 20172 votes

Most crit adcs also can't get Maw because it sets them too behind so that isn't a real option for some adcs.

LauchmelderMar 29, 20171 votes

item 3155 can do the same, even if it's slightly weaker than Maw. And it only costs 1300g.

I love the downvotes btw, just proofs my point.

KaìjuMar 30, 20172 votes

That still is just pure AD with no attack speed or crit, you might as well get Merc Scim but if you need Merc Scim you might as well get GA. You clearly don't play much adc.

LauchmelderMar 30, 20171 votes

It's pointless to talk here I see. Because when mages want a defensive option they need to build item 3191 (and even stack it for it to be usefull) while also trading earlygame power for survivability. But it's obviously the end of the world when an ADC has to do it.

I have built a goddamn Spirit Visage on Ashe once because their Syndra kept killing me. There's a difference between adapting on a game per game basis and playing stupid going for the same build in every game.

KaìjuMar 30, 20171 votes

Yes but Zhyonas gives a lot to a mage. You get a decent chunk of AP, CDR, armor, and after you blow your wad you can use it to wait for cooldowns. As an adc you need attack speed, crit, armor pen, AD and life steal to make your build work. If an item is only giving one of those things, it's not worth it. Five different stats, no crit items give life steal, only a few AD items give life steal, no defense items give crit, and most pure AD items still give less then IE or ER would give better crits and more crits, and mana return/CDR. It isn't optimal, and when your whole job is to kill, optimal is all you have.

LauchmelderMar 30, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N8v6xEf,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T07:21:55.238+0000)

It's pointless to talk here I see.

And it still is true. Ignoring obvious countering options because it's not giving you the same strength. Zhonyas right now is utter garbage btw

RequiemsfireMar 30, 20172 votes

Zhonyas is one of the best defensive options in the game if you have the brains to use it properly and know when it's appropriate to build.

LauchmelderMar 30, 20171 votes

There is literally no reason I would ever buy Zhonyas over another penetration or AP+HP item. Even GA is better than Zhonyas.

If you think Zhonyas is even remotely close to being a good item I'm sorry to disappoint you. But in a meta where EVERYONE gets melted in a second using it's active just makes you a silent bystander to your teams murder while you wait for your own death.

Zed is the only reason you'd ever even buy Zhonyas, and even then it's not because it has great stats.

KaìjuApr 7, 20171 votes

Or get out of jail against Talon, Syndra, Lux, or anyone else who has a lot of burst.

LauchmelderApr 8, 20171 votes

Against Syndra I'd buy Hexdrinker, against Lux QSS.

EternalShockMar 29, 20173 votes

riven cant do that shit 5 levels up lmao. still has to combo and everything.

syndra presses r and its ok.

AnhartaminMar 29, 20174 votes

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LauchmelderMar 29, 20173 votes

Bullshit video.

A 6 ball ult on a target with 0 additional MR, it's OBVIOUSLY gonna kill you. On top of that, item 1033 would have been Ezreals savior as Syndra needed the 6 ball ult AND ignite to barely even kill him.

AnhartaminMar 29, 20176 votes

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LauchmelderMar 29, 20176 votes

A 6 Ball Ult On A Target With ZERO Magic Resist!

Unfair and unbalanced my ass. Counterbuilding would save you, but we'd rather complain about it right?

AnhartaminMar 29, 20171 votes

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LauchmelderMar 29, 20173 votes

If you think a pro can't make a mistake you might as well be lower elo than I am.

He missplayed HARD. You don't just move up on a goddamn Syndra as an ADC. ESPECIALLY if you lack resistances.

Redhood MonMar 29, 20173 votes

Syndra had set up her ball already, it's not wise to get near her with 0 MR. at least, just wait for her ball to disappear.

LauchmelderMar 29, 20172 votes

^ This a hundred times over.

nm1010Mar 29, 20173 votes

"Barely even kill him" So many reasons you are wrong, let us count the ways.

The last sphere did 37 damage out of its possible ~200 or so
Ignite ticked like once, that means it did 62 out of a possible 310 damage.
Null magic mantle would've increased ezreal's effective hp by ~300 IF he got the heal off and syndra didn't throw another auto attack or two.
Ezreal WAS running flat mr blues so "0 additional MR" is also bullshit

LauchmelderMar 29, 20171 votes

Whatever you say. I'm just enjoying my time playing against her because I'm not an idiot that doesn't counterbuild her.

nm1010Mar 29, 20172 votes

I'm just enjoying my time playing against her because I'm not an idiot that doesn't counterbuild her.

You seem to have mistaken my list of reasons why you are incompetent at doing damage calculations as me saying Syndra is too strong. I am perfectly fine with Syndra's power level, you saying that she can't kill from ult if you buy mr is just wrong however. Shoot even if Ezreal healed pre-grievous wounds AND had a hexdrinker Syndra kills him with an auto attack or two.

You weren't even close to your estimated damage output on a champion you play...

OtherworldzMar 29, 20174 votes

Syndra ult with 3 orbs will do like 15-25% of HP max past 25 mins.....

Unlike Veigar or Miss Fortune, Syndra is not a true R Champ. It takes timing and position to set up a proper R with syndra, and anyone who uses her ult with just 3 orbs as an execute on low hp is a boosted monkey.

AnhartaminMar 29, 20173 votes

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SwiftKitten88Mar 29, 20174 votes

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HAHAHA what?! https://youtu.be/5yYUYgNo88E

its 19 min... he has 220 minions worth of farm he has item 3165 item 3020 item 3108 plus his item 1056

he has a 3 level advantage on ezreal and a lvl 2 ulti.

ez has zero mr

and she lands a 6 sphere ulti

OF COURSE ITS GOING TO BLOODY 1 SHOT HIM!!!

LauchmelderMar 29, 20171 votes

Don't bother, I already tried to explain this to him. Doesn't want to listen, he's just gonna call you out on being "low elo" as if low elo has no idea about the game.

Brain Errör 404Mar 29, 20173 votes

Doesn't make that okay. He didn't have have an opportunity to try and do anything. And the point of this is the FACT that this is ONLY 19minutes into the game. Where the f**k is an ADC going to fit in an MR item already?

SwiftKitten88Mar 29, 20173 votes

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Doesn't make that okay. He didn't have have an opportunity to try and do anything. And the point of this is the FACT that this is ONLY 19minutes into the game. Where the f**k is an ADC going to fit in an MR item already?

umm yes he did? syndra was practically out of mana.. if he had waited 2-3 more seconds two of the 6 balls would have vanished and syndra would still only have had mana for 1 spell leaving syndra with a 4 sphere ulti. which would not even REMOTELY have killed him.

he misplayed by missjuding her mana even the CASTERS said "he might be low mana, but hes not out"

2-3 more seconds would still only leave Syndra with 1 spell and she would have lost 2 orbs. therefore Ezreal would have been able to kill her because she would only be able to hit him with 1 spell.

ezreal missplayed

"PEOPLE FEAR WHAT THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND"- Syndra

Brain Errör 404Mar 29, 20174 votes

Remember that whole, "Staying away from x champion is the only counterplay" argument? Lets use that here. While what he did WAS very risky, the fact that he DODGED, and very skillfully I might add, EVERYTHING and still getting one shotted is what's not okay. By a single Ulti at that. That's like Veigar running up to you and pressing R 19minutes into the game and dying at full HP when he didn't hit a single skill shot... that's not the exact definition of "fair" there.

SwiftKitten88Mar 29, 20172 votes

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Remember that whole, "Staying away from x champion is the only counterplay" argument? Lets use that here. While what he did WAS very risky, the fact that he DODGED, and very skillfully I might add, EVERYTHING and still getting one shotted is what's not okay. By a single Ulti at that. That's like Veigar running up to you and pressing R 19minutes into the game and dying at full HP when he didn't hit a single skill shot... that's not the exact definition of "fair" there.

there is a different between "staying a way from a champion that can one shot you" and staying away from that champions that can one shot you during the "1-3 second window" out of every 15 second that they actually CAN oneshot you.

syndra CANNOT 1 shot you if she does NOT have orbs set up on the ground.. like i said... all he needed to do was wait 1-2 more seconds and he could have gone in safely

its NOT like Veigar at all.. his ulti does the same amount of damage based on your stacks no matter WHEN you press it. there isn't a period of time where it going to hit for barely anything when he has "X" stacks its ALWAYS going to do the damage for "X" stacks.

you can't "wait two more seconds" for Veigar ulti mate to do 1/3rd less damage

Brain Errör 404Mar 29, 20174 votes

But you can wait for him to burn it on someone that isn't you. Which would normally require 1-3 seconds on a pick (unless he's smart enough, or in some cases dumb enough, to save it). My entire point was that he shouldn't have died to ONE ability regardless of the nature of the ability. If every champ had a chance to "one shot" you 19minutes into the game every 15 seconds, I'm sure there'd be some serious issues.

You say it isn't the same thing, but in retrospect, it is. If a Graves came up to you, blew his entire combo and only hit you with his Ulti and you died, I'm sure there'd be a major problem. What Syndra did in that Video was as bad as LB coming up to you and pressing E.

SwiftKitten88Mar 29, 20172 votes

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But you can wait for him to burn it on someone that isn't you. Which would normally require 1-3 seconds on a pick (unless he's smart enough, or in some cases dumb enough, to save it). My entire point was that he shouldn't have died to ONE ability regardless of the nature of the ability. If every champ had a chance to "one shot" you 19minutes into the game every 15 seconds, I'm sure there'd be some serious issues.

You say it isn't the same thing, but in retrospect, it is. If a Graves came up to you, blew his entire combo and only hit you with his Ulti and you died, I'm sure there'd be a major problem. What Syndra did in that Video was as bad as LB coming up to you and pressing E.

you dont need to wait for him to burn it on somone else" you need to NOT go in during the 3 second windows he has 6 or 7 spheres up.

you CANNOT keep 6 spheres up all the time. there is only a VERY brief window that you can have 6 spheres and even smaller one that u can have 7 that can only be reached with near max cdr.

if u are a squishy champ. with ZERO MR no hp with a 3 level disadvantage and DON'T go in the ONLY time she actually CAN one shot you.

i have been 1 shot by Syndra myself, but it happens when i realize i have no MR i built no hp... syndra is fed... and she has 3 or four sphere on the ground and i was an idiot and chose THAT exact moment to go in.. it was MY mistake.

you dont walk out in front of minions next to Blitzcrank when he has his pull up. and then cry how "you got pulled"

so don't walk up to syndra when he is three levels above you and have 3 orbs on the ground, when all u have to do is wait 1-2 more seconds for those 2 orbs to go away...

sobi999Mar 29, 20172 votes

Syndra's ult is BS, there is no denying that, even the LCS commentators call it " The high IQ button" :D

But burst mages are suppose to burst squishes. I am sure if the adc got a good position they can take out syndra in 1-2sec. Nonetheless, the trick is to wait and dodge their spells or let the tank, tank and then target them. Backline adc are supposed to take out enemy frontline but whatever. I hardly see tanks so...