What this freaking toxic community needs

HeeroTX·6/13/2018, 2:12:11 AM·9 votes·3,746 views

Riot, add a feature to report in PRE-GAME lobby. And then if a player gets 3+ reports (grouped players only count as 1, to prevent the "won't someone please think of the children" abuses cases we always hear about) then you can dodge without penalty. It's bs that I've gotta take a penalty or sit through a garbage game (and lose LP if ranked) simply because some kid thinks its funny to ban my champ and play Soraka top because sup was gonna play Soraka.

Either give us tools to play around all the damn trolls in your game or: DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE DAMN TROLLS IN YOUR GAME

13 Comments

RiotBazerka6/13/2018, 2:54:18 AM10 votes

I definitely hear you on that, I would push back in saying that there is already a lot happening in the pregame screen. I've mistakenly locked the wrong runes more times than I care to admit. Adding a pre game report structure might be another "too much" thing? Idk, but that would be my initial thought.

The other part is the grey area of "troll". Where does one draw the line between exploration & trolling? Obviously there is a massive difference if that person is overtly toxic, but outside of that how do you tell? When Ezreal jungle was a thing many people were calling it troll until it started working. Same with Malz support and Soraka top. That grey area is what makes "deal with trolls" so hard. I agree we should try and do something, but I don't think hard banning or dodging is the answer. Personally, I think features and systems like Clash that are hyper competitive and meant to be a serious thing will do more to deter trolls than anything else. The place where (IMO) ranked missed the mark was that it fails to attach strong rewards to success in those ques. Rewards btw dont mean $$ or RP, but can also be social rewards like not getting yelled at by your friends to trolling in Clash. Theres a reason why so few people cheat at Magic the Gathering and its because they have to live down the scorn of their fellow players. IMO if we can get there, we are living in a better world.

UnboundHades6/13/2018, 2:17:50 AM3 votes

"it seems like you are playing something off meta and it works for you, but to us its trolling so bye"

Aptest6/13/2018, 10:16:40 AM1 votes

to be fair with you, I think that this would primarily be a harassment vector. Why do people troll and harass in champion select? mainly to contest a role, or to force a dodge by someone else. So they would use this feature without justification for that purpose also.

Ale non è male6/13/2018, 1:28:48 PM1 votes

At end of the game did you get 6+ reports for the guy (4 from your team, a pair from reasonable enemy team), o did you dodge?

People need to stand united and work together to punish these people, instead of letting these kind of behaviours go because the game result or ending up reporting guys who actually ask for the punishment and end up having a bad score because of people penalized by trolls

Pre-game lobby report is doable as feature, imho, but the real problem of honor and report system is the community made by a bunch of people not caring or being pretty much stupid and not catching these obvious bad people with the systems yet in place

EyesOfTheFox6/13/2018, 9:22:18 PM1 votes

I can say with all honesty that I have personally banned champions that a player has declared (only in ranked play though). I do this for one of 3 reasons 1) The champion is trash in the current meta 2) The champion is trash for that specific role 3) I don't want the enemy to have that pick (ie you are last pick and plan to play Yi, yeah good luck with that). I don't do this all the time, only when I feel that if I DON'T ban that champion we will guarantee lose. I have actually had some people stay in lobby and pick something more relevant to the team comp after that and we win. It's when people get mad and choose to punish us for making a ban choice that things get sour. This is why I never declare a pick. I can often times tell just by what people are planning to pick whether or not we will win. And most of the time people don't care about team comp they are dead set on their planned pick regardless. Riot gives me a ban to use how I see fit. And that is how I see fit to use it. I'm not being toxic or trying to piss you off, nor trying to be funny, I'm trying to do what I feel gives the team a better chance to win (yes I know you think being able to pick your one trick will win us the game, but that is a very conceited and quite frankly, blind way of looking at the game).

On a side note, I wish ban phase in ranked was similar to LCS. Being able to see the bans, and NOT have duplicate bans could add more strategy to the game and actually make us randos feel like a team. Give us time to talk strat, open up for more counters. Overall a more competitive game imo.