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What made fervor so good on bruisers?

haaaaaaalp·1/21/2018, 12:13:03 AM·1 votes·301 views

There has been a lot of discussion about how bruisers need a keystone like the old fervor. However, I never saw the old fervor as something which conceptually synergized with every bruiser better than the keystone runes we have now. The only thing that made it so good for bruisers was the fact that it gave more stats to melee champions to make up for the balance team's inability to properly balance melee and ranged champions.

As a result, I am very confused as to why people are focusing on getting a new bruiser rune instead of looking to creating more melee/ranged splits in the current keystones. I can only see one of two things happening with a new "bruiser" rune:

  1. there is no melee/ranged split and marksmen will abuse it
  2. it has a heavy melee/ranged split and pidgeonholes all melee champions into it or grasp (or possibly kleptomania if it also gets a melee/ranged split)

I really don't see how introducing a new rune will increase bruiser diversity than just giving all the current dps runes a melee/ranged split.

8 Comments

redniwediS1/21/2018, 12:14:45 AM1 votes

It was good on Skirmishers and Divers who use a lot of auto attacks, but not so good on Juggernauts and champs from the other two classes who focus on abilities. It was a bunch of extra damage for them, and made longer fights go in their favor.

highnivia2/10/2018, 7:24:10 AM1 votes

Fervor was literally just broken on anything that wanted to succeed in 1v1s between ad scaling champs that involve autoattacks in their combos aka inbetween spells that also like to have a little bit of tankiness since oneshotting is most likely not gonna be as easy as it is for assassins which (for me) is a Bruiser which obviously does not include Juggernauts and thats why i dont consider them bruisers. And why was fervor broken? Well if fervor was fully stacked on lvl 18 the sheer gold value was ridiculous cus it was worth 2240 Worth of gold ad to just provide after 4 autoattacks. There is a reason we saw several Bruiser nerfs all around season 7 and now the Bruisers are left over in the Corner nerfed really damn hard and without an op keystone to play around. Its the classic riot way to approach broken things just this time it was smth that wasnt broken. They nerf the champions itself and a few patches after they nerf/remove the thing that made those champs strong in the first place and leave what they have destroyed lying in the mud for a couple weeks. Why Ranged and melee splits arent enough is pretty simple. Lets say Pta gives half the value For ranged champs and the same for melees as it does right now. It wouldnt nerf adcs in the slightest bit since they would take one of the other keystones thats SPECIFICALLY made for adcs cus they have 3 of those and the toplane fighters would still lose lanephase to maokai or ornn and would still remain useless^^ Edit: Tanks have a tree made for their keystones Mages have aswell Fuck any adcs ever complaining about adcs being bad cus riot will probably give them 20 keystones if someone cries on reddit about being oneshot ^^ And even supports got more love in the new runes system than bruisers atleast getting some nice mentions in aery, Guardian and more that they can abuse. Assassins got a decent amount of love in the new runes but then again Stopwatch exists so they are quite as pissed as bruiser mains despite being in a bit better spot right now. and what do bruisers have : They can abuse grasp its melee only? They can use pta with its support oriented side effect? Like even pta appears to be specifically made for adcs with this bullshit support effect put on it. Its a joke from riot and its laughable at best. Bruisers need their own keystone and not just : Lets make a range/melee split since thats not gonna help to kill tanks. The overall design of the current runes doesnt help to win 1v1s on bruisers which is the only thing they need.

Escheton2/10/2018, 7:43:11 AM1 votes

The only reason why "bruisers" seem underpowered right now is because noone bothers to gank toplane nowdays and Tanks do better in teamfights with a 0-0 score than fighters do.