Why not try to just start off small, instead of completely removing half her kit.
Like iunno, instead of max % health it's current % health true damage. You already chase ridiculously easy, you should be able to get that extra auto or two it'll take.
disregardable4 votesSo, make her main damage ability weaker and more conditional than an item you can buy in the game...right...
CreationFlaw1 votes[{quoted}](name=The AFK Farmer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8EzAgccI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-25T22:32:39.703+0000)
So, make her main damage ability weaker and more conditional than an item you can buy in the game...right...
Well, she has no skillshots and is completely right click reliant. She also has ridiculous peel, why does she get ridiculous tank shred when most tanks can't even catch her to begin with.
Durzaka1 votesJust because a champion has no skill shot and is AA reliant doesnt mean they are easy to play.
The room to outplay with that kit is an enormous skill gap between good and bad Vaynes.
Not to mention being AA reliant purely is one of her biggest weaknesses in lane.
CreationFlaw2 votes[{quoted}](name=The AFK Farmer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8EzAgccI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-25T22:32:39.703+0000)
So, make her main damage ability weaker and more conditional than an item you can buy in the game...right...
Well I mean, you rush that item on Vayne either way. You can literally build two damage items and majority attack speed and rip through people cause of the true damage.
Shroom Junkie1 votesI hate champion guts. I hate Vayne with my life, but I hate champion guts more. Champion guts only lead to rage and asking for buffs and in the end the champ being buffed to fuck and I would never ask for a gut.
But yeah, this is a really good idea for %current health.
Matezoide1 votesBecause asking for severe nerfs is way more fun than asking for light ones, despite of what you actually want.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesremove the flat damage from her w
and there is a thread about it when vayne hits a squishy target silver bolts remove a bigger % of their hp than if she would hit a tank
Cindikle1 votesMake her Condemns knockback range smaller. Increase range per Silver Shot stack on target, consumes stacks.
Remove her ability to critically strike.
Silver shot damage now scales with critical damage/strike. Similar to Ashe's setup.
Silver Shot is now her passive. It takes 6 hits at first to proc on a champion.
W rank reduce the stacks needed by 1/1/2/2/3. Effectiveness of each stack for Condemn adjusted as needed.
Unsure on what to do with W. Passive will likely keep the MS. These changes would likely hurt her quite a bit, so this one would stay open to get her balanced. Maybe she can fire her large crossbow in a direction. This arrow has a pre-set HP and will stop projectiles it comes in contact with as long as they are not more than 2x the arrows width. Projectiles other than the first one that reduce the arrow's HP to 0 will be stopped, the first one will always be stopped.
Keeps her defining damage.
Damage vs those who don't build a lot of HP lower. She'll still be a strong duelist because of her stealth/mobility/AA reset with tumble.
Condemn has more counterplay.
Other than Condemn her self-peel doesn't change. And Condemn isn't hit that hard.
SoberToaster1 votesall they need to do is make her % phys dmg (with a slight buff in the %) there fixed. srs