Your Opinions on the Juggernaut Garen.(No hate please)
Well yeah it's mad late but I just want to hear the opinions of other players(preferable a mix of Garen and Non Garen players) on the Garen rework. I don't normally play Garen and anytime I have to face once I tend to ignore him because most of the time it's pointless(the link is some bit of proof) because he still comes crashing through your team, so I focus on shut downing the other lanes to give my side some footing. However when the time comes to deal with that Garen it's just not worth the effort to try and fight him seeing as how tanky he is and how much damage he can do. His new ult passive is dumb to me. Why punish players for getting a kill by allowing them to get hit with a true damage ult that on it's own does a pretty decent amount of damage. You can argue that Garen has to get to your carries to kill them but with the new items that have been released it's not hard. I mean there's an item that gives a lot of armor and build MS over time and when you attack something the extra MS buffs the next AA. Paired with his Q and the spin Garen can easily and effortlessly get to your carries and lay them down. Focusing him allows the enemy team to slay you faster and ignoring him isn't an option. Yeah I know I'm gonna get comments saying you're bad or other junk like that but that's expected as is the down votes everyone who tries to make a valid discussion about anything in this game recieves but I just want MORE people to understad that Garen is strong, possibly too strong. Leave your opinions in the comments and again Please no Hate.
Darius pull and slows... that kind of defeats the concept).
In the same way that the enemy ADC is central to fights because they have the highest sustained damage output, I see juggernauts in a similar light. For the past few seasons, the meta regarding team fights can be summed up as "protect our ADC, kill the enemy ADC", and every other role was based around that (tanks and supports peel for friendly ADC, assassins dive enemy ADC). 
Garen can't peel because he has no CC, and he also doesn't have the same kind of mobility you would expect from an assassin, and despite his dueling potential he isn't a good splitpusher. Instead, he is like a carry: If he can survive while spinning through the enemy team, he will have a huge impact, but if he gets kited or killed, he will have no impact.
It's kind of a refreshing new meta IMO. Kiting and CC can counter juggernauts in theory. Team compositions and strategies will simply have to be developed with the juggernauts in mind. Juggernauts seem OP right now because people don't respect their raw power and aren't used to their place in the meta.