How to change Rylais

Wolfram Oxford·Oct 9, 2016·8 votes·954 views

Riot, did you forget the changes you made to Frozen Mallet? Use the same philosophy when changing Rylais. Give it more HP, but lower the AP, if that isn't enough reduce the slow.

9 Comments

Wombo JaxOct 9, 20161 votes

Nope, that would make the item quite bad for typical semi-tank mid laners

and tanks with ap scaling will begin to get it ( Mumu,Sej,Malphite,Rammus) that is even worse Rylais as it is just needs a diminished strength slow (30%)

Wolfram OxfordOct 9, 20161 votes

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Nope, that would make the item quite bad for typical semi-tank mid laners

and tanks with ap scaling will begin to get it ( Mumu,Sej,Malphite,Rammus) that is even worse Rylais as it is just needs a diminished strength slow (30%)

As someone who plays tanks often, items that give pure HP aren't of interest. My priority is getting HP, but mainly a lot of resists, damage and utility isn't really something tanks lack. Plus if they do use it, what's the problem? They are easier to kill, and get a small amount of damage and a slow.

SwiftKitten88Oct 9, 20161 votes

honestly the only issue with rylia imo is that you can appy the slow over and over without a cooldown.. i it shouldnt be able to affect the same target more than like once every 5 second

Wolfram OxfordOct 9, 20161 votes

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honestly the only issue with rylia imo is that you can appy the slow over and over without a cooldown.. i it shouldnt be able to affect the same target more than like once every 5 second

That could be a possibility, although a change like this would justify it giving high AP and HP.

SwiftKitten88Oct 9, 20161 votes

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That could be a possibility, although a change like this would justify it giving high AP and HP.

it already had good hp and AP and it has the slow its in a perfect spot when compared to item 3027

EXCEPT it is broken for people who can proc the slow and keep it on forever.. that shouldn't be possible, for any champ that doesn't abuse this item 3116 is perfectly balanced. and since. and i dont feel it right to ruin the item for every item champ when the issue is only that you can perma proc it

Emerald FangOct 9, 20162 votes

Okay, here's a good fix IMO: Change the health to +550. Change the AP to +80/90 (doesn't really matter at this point). Make slows have a 2.5 second cooldown, starting AFTER the slow ends.

Ben SharpioOct 9, 20161 votes

Or the item could be removed completely because mages are already naturally stronger than every other class in this game.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 9, 20161 votes

no. we need to get rid of the perma slow. not shift the stats around. it will still be abused by champions. maybe less than before. but it will still be abused.

SpeckJackNov 29, 20181 votes

I am not sure but I think rylais crystal scepter should maybe get a scaling per lvl on its slow so that it might not be a first item rush but still gets better later into the game maybe they should change it from 10% -30 or 35 or maybe they should give it an ap scaling with a cap so it doesn’t get to 100% slows