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Zoe vs Leblanc

Agent Corgi··4 votes·3,519 views

[Disclaimer: Alright, this is something I've been wanting to get off my chest for quite sometime. I'm sure this will probably get downvoted into the Shadow Realm, but I'm prepared for it.]

  • This may be an unpopular opinion, but I personally don't have an issue with Zoe's overall design (If you asked me about Release Zoe, I'd be singing a different tune). More over, I feel like alot of Zoe's Damage can be avoided simply by dodging her Abilities or using Cleanse effects like the following; item 3140 item 3222 summoner 1 https://www.mobafire.com/images/ability/gangplank-remove-scurvy.png https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/68/Ragnarok.png/revision/latest?cb=20171223032521 If anything, I can see her [W: Spellthief] being a reason for concern. Being able to steal Summoner Spells/Item Actives for free is extremely strong, not to mention it gives her Movespeed & Ahri's [W: Foxfire].

  • Leblanc can just pop in & gib you with using her [Q: Sigil of Malice] & [W: Distortion]. Most of the time, she can just pop out of nowhere & delete you before you can say "Oh hi mark". I've been around since Season 4 & she's always seemed like that. You could build defensive items like item 1033 or play Anti-mage champions like Kassadin Kassadin or Galio Galio, but what do you do if you don't play those champions or you fall behind because of her?

Now don't get me wrong, playing against either of them is similar to walking on Legos barefooted sometimes. However if you asked me, I'd rather play against Zoe over Leblanc. The point of this post is that I would like to know exactly why people Despise Zoe Zoe for her having so much damage that could be avoided, yet not many people complain about Leblanc's Leblanc damage feeling nearly unavoidable at times. Is it because Zoe is a "CertainlyT Champion"? I just really want to know why this is the way it is.

8 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon3 votes

The reason people hate Zoe more is solely because CertainlyT is the one that designed her.

Sure, she can be a bit bullshit if RNG favors her heavily, but that issue is far more exaggerated in Tryndamere, where he can just crit 4-5 times in a row at level 1 and wipe you out.

Her burst usually gives you time to react (as usually she just can't land a Q on a target before hitting E, meaning you at least have that one second to react in), and she's significantly less mobile than LeBlanc (Unless your team is dropping flashes for her left and right, that is), but Zoe is hated way more just because of who made her.

Agent Corgi2 votes

That's ashame. I like her design, but I see where you're coming from. Perhaps if she were handled by another Lead Designer, maybe she wouldn't have been so hated.

report yasuo3 votes

Both are easy brain dead champs that are cancer but Lb imo is hundred times worse like I hate these brain dead kiddos that say "she has to land the e" like tf how tf can u miss it when she w's right on top of ya? And Zoe your bound to hit at least one e then boom one shot aidsssss.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Yes, but if you're just going "you just have to land one E", that's basically the exact same thing for Lux: She only has to land one Q in late and you die to her, because it makes her R basically unmissable.

What everyone seems to forget is that almost all of Zoe's damage is condensed into her Q and E. It's like a full mage kit of 3-4 damaging abilities all focused into two of them, so her damage per ability is twice as high if she has the same damage as someone else.

Agent Corgi1 votes

Like I said, playing against them is like walking barefoot on Legos, it's not fun.

Leblanc's [E: Ethereal Chains] is another thing about her. The tether radius (the distance you need to escape from) is about 925 Units, she can also travel to make sure you stay in range & get rooted at the end.

Compare it to Fiddlesticks [W:Drain], which is about 650 units and Fiddlesticks is stationary during the duration.

Unless you're playing someone with lots of mobility, you're not getting away from her.

F Ù Ń2 votes

Though Leblanc is more confusing than Zoe, Zoe’s abilities are more avoidable. In a 1 v 1 situation LeBlanc can simply teleport out of Zoe’s combo. Leblanc on the other hand, can teleport to Zoe and then point-and-click her to death, and teleport back out

ShiniXII1 votes

yeah man ur right we should all just dodge the abilities gotta wonder why the entire LCS doesnt play champions without skillshots since by your logic you can dodge every skillshot at every situation

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

You can't dodge every skillshot, it's not reasonably possible.

But you can dodge a good number of them if you have decent base MS, and you can interrupt their combos (Zoe isn't doing shit even if she does land an E if you stun her before her E comes into full effect on you), and you can, in general, just outplay your opponent and burst them first.

Everyone fails to dodge something or misses something occasionally.

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