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@Riot Why is This Okay

Ghazter·6/3/2018, 6:07:45 AM·3 votes·2,999 views

So I just played a game, the other team was trash, except for Lux. Over 60k damage, almost triple the next highest on their team. She ended with over 20 kills and 11 deaths.

She was filled as support.

Why is she allowed to have her ult up every 2 (exaggeration) seconds? Why is she allowed to have a stun that can hit 2 people and can hit people that aren't even inside it? Why does she have an AOE spell that can be cast from essentially outside of sight?

I used to just think lux was annoying but I could deal with her. Now, she has more AP as a support than mid.

All I'm asking for is to

Redo hitboxes on her Q and R to match the visual
Punish her for building full AP as support. I'm not sure how to accomplish this.
Seriously, remove cooldown bonus on her R. It's essentially a Darius ult that can be cast from 1/4 of the map away. She doesn't need it to reset that fast.

You guys fixed Zoe, so would you please fix Lux? I'm so tired of Lux supports carrying the game and hitting my whole team with a laser that isn't even touching them.

35 Comments

NekoniClaws6/3/2018, 9:41:27 PM2 votes

Sneak up on her in the jungle.

I faced one of the best Threshes on NA, I was playing AP Lux support. He punished the ever living hell out of me.

He left lane level 2, went to kill mid, then jungle, then fourmaned us. What could I do in response? Every time I swept a bush and saw a ward a hook would fly out. I've never been so scared of a player. I was never in a position to generate gold from the playstyle change alone.

PUNISH her. If your adc has to roam with their sup, so be it. If she gets ahead, dominate vision, because she's the one that's warding.

And itemize against her- if CC is getting you, get a QSS, or a zhonyas. It's not a stun.

I would take Lux to your team as well. You have immobile melees and the shortest range ADC you could find. If there's any situation she should flourish, it's this.

Critmaster Garen6/3/2018, 6:09:45 AM2 votes

biased poll. you didnt give people the chance to vote no.

Penalize her somehow for getting all the kills as support (she shouldn't be able to get this many kills or get enough gold to build full AP as support)

this is honestly just silly.

as far as hitboxes go, i dont think its even her spells. they should have a pretty clear hitbox. the problem is champion hitboxes themselves. the hitbox of a champion isnt his model. its an invisible circular area on the ground.

imagine it like a tabletop figurine.

https://geekandsundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Song-of-Ice-and-Fire-1-1-970x545.png

imagine the round platforms theyre standing on are the hitboxes in this game. the fact that they arent just equal to your champion model can make them highly misleading.

whenever two circular hitboxes of a projectile and a champion touch, the projectile connects. this is why some skillshots fired at the right angle look like they hit when they didnt even touch your champion visually. you also have another component with the isometric view on the map, and hight differences of terrain that can create additional visual distortions.

knobblez6/3/2018, 9:45:57 AM2 votes

Her Q is a snare. Not a stun. Lux has no stuns.

I will say that her Q hitbox and R hitbox are way off of the sprite from my experience

DODGEORLOSE6/3/2018, 7:52:33 AM1 votes

Coming from a Zyra main before the nerfed the plant ai, that damage is adorable.

BLACK REALM GOD6/3/2018, 7:23:59 PM1 votes

show me her build. build or it didnt happen.

DW Diana6/3/2018, 7:44:12 PM1 votes

Sorry but support is the only place the old AP carries can play now. Midlane is where the assassin's live that they aren't built to deal with and the champions that once countered hypermobile, snowballing hypercarries in the midlane have been nerfed to the point where they aren't able to do shit against them except waveclear. I'm glad lux, vel'koz and annie have found a home in botlane. I just wish there was still a place in the game for the rest...

Saianna6/3/2018, 9:51:51 PM1 votes

Good player dwarfing the scores of his teammates = Crappy teammates and OP champ

Also funny how she's the only silver, while her whole team is bronze lol

Morticianjohn6/3/2018, 9:55:09 PM1 votes

And fix steel legion lux. Auto e and q animations are all too similar

Axzarious6/3/2018, 10:48:04 PM1 votes

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So I just played a game,** the other team was trash, except for Lux**. Over 60k damage, almost triple the next highest on their team. She ended with over 20 kills and 11 deaths.

I took the liberty to highlight the important part for you. That's the main reason why she was able to do that.

Unlike Brand and Zyra who can output obscene damage with Ryali's and Liandries then go full support, Lux likely had to build like she was mid to get those numbers. That's usually a huge gamble if you're any kind of support - you either end up carrying or feeding. It's a gamble that might need to be taken, especially if your team isn't up to the task of actually being able to carry the game. As the only good one on their team, If she built like an actual support, it's unlikely she'd be able to have any sort of solid impact since she's a burst mage.

If she had been mid, things might have been even worse for your team.

Ghazter6/3/2018, 6:09:58 AM1 votes

I was going to add an option for "All of the above" and "Lux is just fine for normals", but apparently I can't edit polls.

Draven Always6/3/2018, 6:43:26 AM1 votes

Lux is hardly the most oppressive mage in botlane. She is fine in botlane in my opinion. The most disgusting mage botlaner is Brand. Lux's skillshots (especially her snare) are very dodgeable.

Ghazter6/3/2018, 7:24:14 PM

To everyone that's wondering why there isn't an option for "change nothing", I accidentally hit enter before I was finished. Upvote this post if you don't think she needs a change.