Shaco interactions with Red trinket sweepers, pink wards, dusk blade (with poll)

ZaColombian··2 votes·1,303 views

I feel like Shaco, even when ahead cannot feel satisfying when you can counter him completely by obtaining 1 FREE item. In the case of sweepers, I don't believe it is fair that a 0 gold level 1 item should completely ruin the experience. Red trinket interactions with every other hidden trap are completely different, with Teemo shrooms it reveals them but you can still walk on them and take damage and the slow, same with Nidalee traps. When it comes to Shaco the damage is not what is important but the fear is, on offensive and defensive. I believe red trinket should reveal his boxes and remove the vision but not activate the fear similar to how shrooms react when spotted by the red trinket. Pink wards and duskblade can remain the same for the reason that gold has to be spent accordingly to have their passives. It's just not fair that a 0 gold item will completely counter Shaco both with the deactivation of his boxes including ult, and his one escape Q which shows which direction he went. My two solutions are making red trinket a level 9 item again so at least there is some wiggle room or adjusting it so the fear is still active but it shows the location of the boxes and removes the vision given by boxes this allows for ranged champions to still remove boxes, but give Shaco some utility and escapability. There are 3 items in the game that actively remove his fear and one is completely free at lvl 1 so if your a shaco that's doing well all they have to do is build sweepers get pinks and have a duskbaled and your whole kit is completely useless including half of the ult who places 3 boxes and almost never procs fear due to one of the aforementioned items.

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taleofsonata1 votes

I think control ward should not disable his traps and only trinkets should do.

ZaColombian1 votes

i feel like it should be the other way around, trinkets are free wards cost money, and having a trinket allows them to just walk around disabling everything when having a ward cost money. if anything they should ring back the two tear red trinket where you spend gold to upgrade it.

taleofsonata1 votes

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i feel like it should be the other way around, trinkets are free wards cost money, and having a trinket allows them to just walk around disabling everything when having a ward cost money. if anything they should ring back the two tear red trinket where you spend gold to upgrade it.

Problem is Control wards stays until you destroy them meaning that putting one disable every single traps and upcoming traps you put in the zone until destroyed. Removing literally any counterplays.

ZaColombian1 votes

yea that's the point of control wards, that the point of that control ward is to provide control of an area but it's in a single localized area that you have to play around. You can't play around a sweeper that moves and can be popped at any time. The thing with sweepers is that they are supposed to "show" hidden traps and champions not completely render them useless. so vs a shaco all you have to do is say oh here is a shaco pop sweepers and run after him not having to worry about getting feared, the number one most essental part of shaco kit.

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