How do I stop Zed?

Krinu·2/18/2016, 7:46:36 AM·6 votes·961 views

As the title says.

I'm an support main, typically playing Soraka, Janna, Zilean, Morgana, and various other "squishy" supports. Short of rushing an incredibly expensive (on a support budget) Zhonya's Hourglass, how in the world am I supposed to deal with a Zed that can wander down from mid-lane, ult me or my carry under tower, and leave?

And yes, I'm a bit salty, but I'm also curious, because I can see how popular Zed is and I really could use some advice against him.

15 Comments

Strat2/18/2016, 9:05:29 AM7 votes

General advice for squishy supports:

  • Buy these items situationally: item 3143, item 3190 (if enemy has at least one magic damage dealer), item 3110
  • Save your exhaust. If you're playing the lane right you won't have to use it on your lane opponents, so save it for Zed and use it on him as soon as he ults.
  • Never underestimate the value of having extra vision. Buy a pink ward, and chuck it near mid lane! You can spot Zed 20 seconds in advance most of the time. Also keep an eye on mid lane in general, try to see if Zed has gone back to base, since he could be running up your lane afterwards.
  • Also, RUSH item 2049. This should be your first item. Not upgrading to item 3096 , not item 3098, certainly not item 1001. You need that full-river vision. That shit will save both your lane and your mid laner (possibly even your jungler). Get that vision down early, and maintain it. It's OK to delay Sightstone in some matchups. Never vs a Zed.

Specific advice for the supports you've listed:

  • Soraka - E your ally/yourself when he ults. Aim the E so that it's centred in your escape path, so that Zed is forced to chase your ally through the E. Also, obviously, spam your Q/W/R.
  • Janna - ult him away as soon as his ult lands, and be ready to Q him up as soon as he W back towards you. Obviously you should be sticking as close as possible to your ally, try to be behind your ally and not in front. Don't panic and use your Q too early, save it for after you've ulted him away. Janna is one of he biggest cock blocks for Zed, you literally can't die if you use your skills with the correct timing.
  • Zilean - use your speedup on whoever the Zed ults, and throw your bombs in the escape path. Once again, major cock block for Zed, you rarely even have to use your ult (use it if he gets a few too many hits off, but stay calm and assess the situation)
  • Morgana - this one can be tricky. You have lots of options. 1: Q Zed the moment he lands with his ult (this requires experience and perfect timing). 2: Ult him once he ults and walk towards where he ulted from. This will guarantee a stun (or force him away from you), but may put you in an undesirable position. 3: ult and run - Zed is more vulnerable to slows than people think, and if he keeps chasing you'll be in a good position for Q+W combo when he gets rooted.

Overall, you can see the value of keeping your ult cooldown. If you're playing a passive support, play passive - hold onto your cooldowns and you'll be in a good position to avoid a Zed gank. Even without your ult, most of the supports can handle a Zed, but a lot relies on you controlling vision.

Little Stick Man2/18/2016, 7:47:20 AM7 votes

you ban him

420666872/18/2016, 9:31:53 AM4 votes

Turn off shadows in your settings

Numb3rs2/18/2016, 8:45:25 AM1 votes

steraks gage is basically the only assassin counter item right now besides zhonyas. unfortunately it doesnt really fit into the builds of the supports you say you play

Amber Lynn2/18/2016, 8:55:33 AM1 votes

Take exhaust and recommend sheild on adc. Take armor yellows and get the sight ward for hp? If he's not fed you are fine. If he's fed and Mia then expect to give up outer tower if its starting to get pushed and your jungler is not there to help defend. Keep an eye on your hp and summoners to know when it's best to just fall back and ping for mid to push and take tower there.

ClutchCrux2/18/2016, 9:32:16 AM1 votes

Kayle

Changsty2/18/2016, 8:37:01 AM1 votes

Soraka, Zilean and Morgana all have abilities that can lock down Zed as soon as he "exits" his ult. One binding/silence/stun and he's eating at least two turret shots. If the enemy botlane is pushing to set up a dive, then your adc will have to manage the wave better so that doesn't happen.

Ellphi2/18/2016, 8:40:29 AM1 votes

Janna/Morg/Raka/Zil have a great chance of surviving a Zed ult just with their kit alone

Sometimes it sucks to die but frankly it's much better that Zed just ults a support