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What happened to Fiora?

J3wSt0MP3R··1 votes·870 views

Used to see her a lot last season, a few times this season so far, (S6). I've tried playing her, not too sure what to build or kinda how to play her. I understand the vitals and her passive, as well as her ult. It just seems so hard to land your ult on someone in the middle of a team fight and finish it off to get the reward for you and your team... seem to die pretty fast after I use my parry... Maybe I'm playing her wrong, but I've done some research and seemed to find a lot of people have had the same issues as far as itemization and overall late game identity goes. Any tips, comments, or thoughts would be appreciated.

Seems like Riot had this awesome duelist planned out and according to patch notes of recent she recieved a rework that some may call a nerf. I am curious if Riot has plans to revisit her since she seems like such a rewarding champion to master.

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15 Comments

Critmaster Garen1 votes

she was nerfed pretty hard. they gave her some changes that were appropriate, and some nerfs that were inappropriate imo. the thing is, she needed changes at the time due to her overwhelming bruiser builds.

the changes to her passive were neccessary, removing the base damage, and increasing the bonus ad scaling. it gives her an incentive to actually stack damage to make it useful.

the nerf to her w cooldown was a gigantic mistake. nerfing her w didnt just nerf bruiser fiora. it hit the one ability in her kit, that makes her intended playstile (full on squishy adc fiora) viable in the first place.

if you ask me, her w cooldown should scale down with attack speed, or lethality or something, so she still gets 6 seconds on the ability at rank 5 with 40% cdr, when shes going for a glass cannon build, instead of the current 10 seconds.

J3wSt0MP3R1 votes

Agreed with your 4th paragraph. The W cooldown is so high, and once you use it, you better have used it wisely or else you'll probably die... Take a look at a champ like Yasuo and his windwall, I think it's somewhere around 7 seconds. That's pretty frequent of an ability that seems to mirror Fiora's ult.

Her identity right now seems kinda flawed. I know in the beginning of her release, she was a skill based champ a duelist... but why play her? She's sorta like Yas, Riven, Zed... but those champs all have some sort of escape mechanism, the Riven combo, Zed ghost, Yasuo knock up and windwall that is funny to watch people walk around when they don't expect it to be thrown up. I understand you don't want champs with identical kits, but at some point you gotta sit down and ask yourself what makes Fiora weak?

Who knows, maybe they'll revisit her, but the assassin meta seems to have taken over and there is no telling when she could get revisited.

AstroFerrari 1 votes

Yasuo wind wall has a starting cooldown of 26, but he isnt forced to use it as much because of his mobility and free shield for walking. But speaking as a Fiora main, her W cooldown is too high to the point of which it's almost a worthless skill in bad match ups.

Most of her match are still skill based, but match ups who can dick around her early like Renekton, or just have more poke and DPS will always get the edge on her.

She's still fun to play nonetheless.

Great Muta1 votes

She took the good ole Rito 1-2-3 combo where you overbuff, overnerf and forget.

Calabok1 votes

nothing happened to her. she's still crazy OP

Anonagon1 votes

I think she's pretty balanced right now, if a little too weak in the hands of a non-main.

Now I took a look at your match history, and I noticed one thing that I think is hurting your Fiora in particular; Grasp of the Undying. Even if Fervor is in a weak spot right now, its still the best Keystone for Fiora (with Warlords as an option to overcome bad matchups).

J3wSt0MP3R1 votes

Okay, I'll take that into consideration. I have just been testing out so many builds, haven't felt comfortable with anything really to be honest. If I don't build her tanky enough, I die way too fast. I feel like she needs lifesteal to sustain during a fight, but I don't know really how to build her.

Tried out a bunch of different rune pages and it seems like cooldown reduction is a must. Thoughts? I'm interested to hear from a Fiora main, my mechanics are also probably pretty bad as well.

Anonagon2 votes

I wouldn't call myself a main really, but here's my advice for builds:

For masteries, you have three big options 18/0/12 standard, with Fervor 18/0/12 with Warlords for bad matchups 18/12/0 with Fervor and Bandit for good matchups, to amass a gold lead (bandit procs on Q)

For runes, standard AD pages work, but its probably best to tech in AS Quints and CDR blues, if you have them and are willing to have a dedicated fiora page

Items: item 3074 item 3078 /item 3071 item 1001 item 3072 item 3156 item 3026 This is pretty ideal. Trinity is into squishy teams, otherwise take BC. Boots are of course situational - might want to take CDR if you aren't running CDR blues Alternate choices for BT and Maw include item 3036 item 3053 item 3814 item 3033 item 3812 item 3142

When it comes to teamfighting, you should try to play kind of like an ADC - don't attempt to go deep, just attack whatever you can without getting blown up. You can use your ult to burn through an enemy frontliner.

J3wSt0MP3R1 votes

Why not go Titanic Hydra?

Anonagon1 votes

shouldn't really be building enough health for it to be worth it, also lifesteal is super important

J3wSt0MP3R1 votes

Most builds I've seen are bruiser builds. Why I ask.

J3wSt0MP3R1 votes

I always go super deep, hahahah. Probably my issue. I am usually 1st or second to die in teamfights.

J3wSt0MP3R1 votes

What's hard for me is when I ult, working around the enemy to proc all of the vitals. I would win so many more trades if I could do that.

Strawberrycocoa1 votes

You'll need some early CDR to proc the vitals effectively. Aim your Q's so you collide with more than one Vital if you can, then you can proc them more efficiently. Remember, your Q triggers on-hit effects, so it counts as an auto-attack for procing Vitals.

JafarThePanda1 votes

She's still busted and gets ridiculous amounts of true damage that would make Ahri and Velkoz jealous

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