Riot is Ashe going to ever have a Kit Rework?

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I love her W and R I'll admit, but her Passive, Q and E are just horrible and useless.

Many of you might find this absurd which I'm fine with that because you can come up with any Ideas you like but I picture her Passive to be similar to Caitlyn and Annie mixed together, where after every 6 basic attacks can cause a 1 second stun [Her bow will light up when stun is in place] (it does not apply to skills nor it's AoE) and her Q to be the kind where she can increase her Crit chances by 5%/10%/15%/20%/25% for 1.75/ 2/ 2.75 /3/ 3.75 seconds (passively grants her attack speed) [glowing looking thing will be shown under her feet when she uses the skill] while her E stays the same but grants her movement speed to the area she reveals within any location of the map.

OR HER Q Can be For 4 seconds her next ONE basic attack will do a crit damage while passively gains attack speed Here comes the down votes!

11 Comments

Rawrful5 votes

Wait.

You think that an ability that lets a 600 range ADC apply a 35% slow on every attack is a weak skill? You think that a blue trinket + extra gold on an ADC is a weak skill?

I think you're confused. Ashe has a greater than 50% win rate in every level of play. She clearly doesn't need huge ridiculous buffs like you are suggesting. Her passive, like always, could use some work. But it really isn't that bad. It lets you open fights with that automatic sweet sweet IE+Shiv auto crit for a billion damage.

See, Ashe is not weak and her skills aren't "horrible and useless." She is a UTILITY carry. Yeah, Tristana can deal a billion damage late game. Yeah, Corki and Lucian are super powerful in lane. But Ashe lets you use more low-CC champions in your other roles, and gives you incredible mid-game pick potential with her ult. She can check brush/objectives with her E, she can slow frontliners and catch runners. She has great burst due to auto crit. Yeah, she isn't a damage hose. But she doesn't need to be. You don't pick Ashe to be a damage hose.

For Ashe1 votes

I agree that Ashe is weak in some parts, but I like it this way. Only people who really like her will keep playing her, not some bunch who are aiming for easy victory. I think this is sorta what differentiates her from other 'meta' adcs.. And it also makes her sweet and very lovable as she is easily conceived as a vulnerable, weak, and precious lady. Protective instincts. Makes peeling easier!! Instinctive peeling. How does that even get any better? Plus she's so adorable that nobody would hate her even if she made a mistake and accidentally died.. Or is it just me? OK I'll stop here

Newb the Legend1 votes

The above comment, XD

Bresn1 votes

E needs to be changed, definitely yes. It's a crap vision skill lasting for only a second or so and I don't think it actually reveals scout units. Logically, Ashe is shooting out a magical bird so it's a wtf thing.

Sight stones and the new vision camps makes this skill useless.

Sageace1 votes

I like her kit. Her Passive and probably her Q is what is in need of change. Her W, E, and ult is fine in my opinion. I like her Volley, her Vision, AND her ult. W for kiting, E for anticipation/vision/preparation/ambush foiler, and her ult for the tide turner of a teamfight. I don't mind her Q because the slows from it are good, but I prefer something better or different for her Passive. A free crit is nice, but getting a free crit when an item or your runes are already giving you one on your next hit? I feel that I just wasted my passive. And her E? It's much more reliable than what others say or think.

What the OP has said, I DO NOT want to give Ashe an attack speed steroid. No. She has slows.

I created a thread called Ashes of Ashe if you want to take a look. It was sometime ago and I will go back to see if I need to update anything.

Kuroi861 votes

She could use a rework one of these days. But she doesn't really need one.

stealthfox941 votes

She doesn't need a rework.

Embertine1 votes

She had a rework, Riot took her "good" passive and replaced it with a garbage one.

SmokingPuffin1 votes

Ashe is behind at least 30 champions in the rework line. It's not even a necessary thing, as Ashe is pretty good today.

I can certainly see giving her a more thematic passive, like "Ashe has increased critical strike chance against targets affected by Frost". Her current passive does not flow well with doing marksman things, and would be more natural on a jungler or support.

More than anything else, Ashe needs a item 3222 nerf.

NorthernDruid1 votes

The only thing I think dratically needs a touch-up is her passive. Because it offers so little play, is not very useful during the laning phase and falls off in the late game, offering only something every other IE+Shiv user has a 50% to do anyway.

If it had impact beyond the first hit of an engagement that would be something, or if she had something else, personally i'd love for her to have some mobility function related to ice-skating, tooled to make enhance her hit-and-run play/kiting.

TheKingDodo1 votes

How about firing her ult self-knocks ashe back a couple of units like caitlyn net? It's inconceivable how she fired a huge arrow without any sort of recoil?

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