Urgots W should gain bonus damage off of any Attack Speed built

CapnMorganFr3man·3/12/2018, 3:28:56 PM·43 votes·12,495 views

For the past few patches Urgot’s been in a pretty decent spot; good at killing squishies, good at dueling tanks, and all around a fun and interesting addition to the top lane. However, with the nerf to the bonus attack speed gained from putting points into Percision, there’s been a pretty noticeable decline in his winrate, which brings up an important issue for the future of the champ; any changes to masteries and items to keep adcs in check are extremely likely to hurt a champion with little negative impact in the game. Now, there are two ways to handle this; his attack speed could be buffed a little bit and we wait around until the next crop of adc nerfs where he’ll need to be buffed again, or we could do what I’m proposing which is to add bonus damage to his W based off of any attack speed he builds (similar to Jhin’s passive,) allowing him the ability to actually build the items he’s receiving indirect nerfs on account of, reinvigorate his ability to fight tanks, and even open up new viable build paths for him (Trinity Force, for instance.)

89 Comments

RiotRiotRepertoir3/13/2018, 4:20:20 AM28 votes

His W actually had AS scaling before he shipped. It was removed because it led to a lot of really fragile builds that pretty heavily compromised his ability to survive encounters. That said... it feels like he's getting the short end of the stick with a lot of items in the shop right now (Sterak's going melee only, Frozen Mallet ranged user nerf, etc.), so perhaps something like that is in order.

There are actually quite a few things I'd like to clean up on him, but I don't want to play favorites :)

ChompyWulf3/12/2018, 3:37:21 PM17 votes

Sounds like a not terrible idea.

5050BS3/12/2018, 9:06:18 PM5 votes

I just wish item 3042 was usable by him gain... Would be great if on hits were 100% for W

Eternal7913/13/2018, 3:31:46 AM4 votes

This could be good, but I'd rather they allow him to use melee items. Though I'd love to start taking Trinity Force on him if attack speed grants bonus damage to his W.

I Eat Ąss3/12/2018, 3:38:04 PM4 votes

I thought building attack speed on Urgot was bad because his W is capped at a certain speed?

Birbonius3/12/2018, 5:20:07 PM2 votes

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with the nerf to the bonus attack speed gained from putting points into Percision, there’s been a pretty noticeable decline in his winrate,

I'm pretty sure that's not the reason his winrate may have declined. Simply at the time there was still sperimenting in the community,and PTA seemed like the go-to choice,until someone started to improvise seeing how little damage it was actually dealing overall. Right now the go-to rune is either comet or aftershock (match-up dependant) and,even if there are still people that go PTA (and it seems a bit better than before,both for me and for other) everyone agrees that the attack speed stat for that tree was and still is wasted. It may help you farm a little better,but it doesn't help you at all at being Urgot and doing what Urgot does.

Said that,it is true that some balancing made to affect ADC's abuse hurt Urgot too (not everything though. Most noteably Sterak's,Grasp and the eventual new rune that is coming out) and that a solution could be found to give him some indirect buffs,but i have to say that he is seriously not in need of direct changes. So,giving extra damage on his W based on his Attack Speed would be just a "useless" (more damage is never useless) memery that would only confuse even more people while building and learning him. Either that or we would see the rise of a cheesy on-hit Urgot,which would eventually bring the nerfs and leave all of those who played urgot before in a bad place along the others who would join with the change.

No thanks,i prefer keeping my melting legs,even though i would have fun doing a viable on-hit urgot.

rtbf906614563/12/2018, 4:51:12 PM1 votes

I'm already getting pounded out the ass every game urgot is in tho ._. do we gotta buff him when he already outscales, outduels and is allowed to poke me? - Shen