Haven't seen Teemo, Aatrox or Darius in competitive pro-play for ages. These champions are unviable and need some MASSIVE BUFFS to become viable. This is a fact, don't even bother saying otherwise.
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L33K Senpai2 votesLogic please.
: He needs a small buff - more so in maintaining his tanky aspect or improving his dueling abilities. Aatrox either gives up damage or sustainability and his sustain isn't enough on its own and makes him get shut down quickly in most team play situations. Also, Aatrox is a duelist vs being a tanky crowd control. He truly lacks any hardcore CC besides a small area knock up and a few slows.2. : He doesn't need a buff because he isn't necessarily bad. He's just easy to counter - but that doesn't mean you should insanely improve upon him. I see Teemo as more of an annoying harass poke rather than an executioner-PENTA God. So with that being said - Teemo is in a good place. LCS players don't use him because all you need a bursting 
to put him in his place.
3 : Any good player knows CC fucks Darius in the ass. Hard. Snares, Stuns and slows are a darius's nightmare while the enemy team dances around him and kites him before a jump-in assassin execution. He's simply TOO IMMOBILE to do anything. But good Darius's take this into consideration and itemize correctly to mitigate the crowd control put onto him. The reason he isn't picked in LCS is because Darius is immobile - his kit is massive damage and heavy ass dueling - simply kiting him is enough to shut him down. With ADC popular picks being: 
- Kiting is just bread and butter and makes Darius useless in almost all scenarios.
Extreme Troller2 votesteemo aatrox and darius opest champ in lol need a buff. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
teemo ap with 40%CDR and luden echoe does 1300damage against 100Mr resist. and there is no oracle. good luck with that and teemo mushorrom with 40%CDR is insanely low. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/5g6A2dnB-teemo-mushroom-does-1300damage-on-100-magic-resist-4000hp-target
aatrox is extremly op. With mercury boot, frozen mallet, botrk, ga, malmortius, thornmail he has 270armor, 200mr and you cannot kill him because he lifesteal too much with his 300+AD. also he get ton of attack speed from passive and ulti. He's litterally unkillable lategame. not to mention GA+revive = 2 lives. it's instant win in teamfight you can't kill him. he's second most op champ.
darius is extraordinarly op too : http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/pmiu16i5-did-you-know-darius-had-40-perma-as-reduction-debuff?show=flat
40% attack speed debuff, is extremly op, not to mention his PERMA SLOW !! yes perma slow with full CDR.
Arsames1 votes[{quoted}](name=Extreme Troller,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7Ml5K3O7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-06-02T15:27:03.158+0000)
teemo aatrox and darius opest champ in lol need a buff. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
teemo ap with 40%CDR and luden echoe does 1300damage against 100Mr resist. and there is no oracle. good luck with that and teemo mushorrom with 40%CDR is insanely low. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/5g6A2dnB-teemo-mushroom-does-1300damage-on-100-magic-resist-4000hp-target
aatrox is extremly op. With mercury boot, frozen mallet, botrk, ga, malmortius, thornmail he has 270armor, 200mr and you cannot kill him because he lifesteal too much with his 300+AD. also he get ton of attack speed from passive and ulti. He's litterally unkillable lategame. not to mention GA+revive = 2 lives. it's instant win in teamfight you can't kill him. he's second most op champ.
darius is extraordinarly op too : http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/pmiu16i5-did-you-know-darius-had-40-perma-as-reduction-debuff?show=flat
40% attack speed debuff, is extremly op, not to mention his PERMA SLOW !! yes perma slow with full CDR.
Oh really? why 0 LCS picks then? oh yeah, they are unviable and need buffs. GG NO RE.
Extreme Troller1 votesOh really? why 0 LCS picks then? oh yeah, they are unviable and need buffs. GG NO RE.
it's because lcs player are noobs. they change every year their build, but almost nothing happened. well actually they increase over time but i still find lcs player noobs. They were etremly noobs in 2012-2013 thou, so they are better but still noobs.
DrCyanide1 votesTeemo will likely get a small rework to replace his E with an active ability, giving him poison as a passive somewhere else.
Arsames1 votesTeemo will likely get a small rework to replace his E with an active ability, giving him poison as a passive somewhere else.
Teemo doesn't need a rework, he needs a buff.
rtbf2216514121 votesTeemo doesn't need a rework, he needs a buff.
He needs a rework. His ult is useless in big maps. His E is pretty useless early game. His W is decent, but is one of those abilities I rather choose Q over. His passive is terrible.
Arsames1 votesHe needs a rework. His ult is useless in big maps. His E is pretty useless early game. His W is decent, but is one of those abilities I rather choose Q over. His passive is terrible.
His ult is amazing, his E is very good :)
DrCyanide1 votesHis E is good, and is key to him, but it's eating up a full ability slot in a League where those types of abilities are passives on active abilities slots. Look at Ekko's W, Kalista's W or E, or others. You won't find a new champion with an ability slot that's just a passive.
What will most likely happen is that he'll get an active ability that deals damage, getting the E as a free passive, similar to Ashe's rework.
Arsames1 votesHis E is good, and is key to him, but it's eating up a full ability slot in a League where those types of abilities are passives on active abilities slots. Look at Ekko's W, Kalista's W or E, or others. You won't find a new champion with an ability slot that's just a passive.
What will most likely happen is that he'll get an active ability that deals damage, getting the E as a free passive, similar to Ashe's rework.
So that will be a buff, fine by me :) Buff Teemo <3
karruck1 votesult is nothing to write home about ....great a shroom i can hide or drop 3 as poison mines.....srry would rather have something a bit more active thaN THAT......and before u reply i love my teemo and built right he shreds
rtbf2216514121 votesult is nothing to write home about ....great a shroom i can hide or drop 3 as poison mines.....srry would rather have something a bit more active thaN THAT......and before u reply i love my teemo and built right he shreds
Nothing that a sweeper can't find, right?
Arsames1 votesult is nothing to write home about ....great a shroom i can hide or drop 3 as poison mines.....srry would rather have something a bit more active thaN THAT......and before u reply i love my teemo and built right he shreds
When you get ganked, drop shrooms and kite around them, they are very active, gitgud breh, there is a reason I have diamanda icon, I know what I am talking about. Teemo has great design, but needs buffs. His shroom damage got nerfed a long time ago, that was a mistake, he needs massive buffs.
karruck1 voteswill try that...like i said i love teemo,the many diff builds you can use to be great top lane...or maybe any lane dunno i go top with him while playing with the wife and he rocks
Orbv1 votesWait what?...
His E is very strong early game. Twitch is the one with a weak poison early game. Also his is good no matter what map you're on. There are choke points everywhere.
rtbf2216514121 votesWait what?...
His E is very strong early game. Twitch is the one with a weak poison early game. Also his is good no matter what map you're on. There are choke points everywhere.
DrCyanide got to the point. Not to mention Twitch avoids Magic Resist.
PolarTroop1 votesIn terms of balance, yes could be buffed in a way. But for the other two , no. And here is why you won't see them in the LCS. Both Darius and Teemo have MASSIVE counterplay mechanics. Pro players can exploit these mechanics and get shut out for an entire game. By your logic then 
and 
need buffs then too. Pro play does not make the champs played OP.
Arsames1 votesIn terms of balance, yes
Buff Heimer and Malz, all champions should be strong enough to be picked for Pro-Games.
PolarTroop1 votesBoth are strong but it doesn't make sense to have champion suppress himself in a fight and Heimer can have his turrets destroyed. They both are actually strong champions. Its just the counter play potential against these champions.
Dr Poro1 votesOkay, if you suggest that 2 of the top 3 highest winrate mid champs in plat+ need a buff, then you're an obvious troll.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesIt's funny that Aatrox was sometimes played in the EU LCS...
Arsames4 votesIt's funny that Aatrox was sometimes played in the EU LCS...
Yeah, when he was released, not now.
EffectFX1 votesNot just when he was released. He was seeing EU LCS play more than a year after his release, including play time at Worlds last year and consistently performed well.
It's funny because people keep suggesting the wrong buffs for Aatrox (never mind they keep building him poorly). This current meta isn't too terrible for him either.
HorusEye1 votesWasn't Aatrox seen during the LCS Spring split? Forgot if it's NA or EU.
Gym Leader Yaki1 votes no way
not really. Maybe a tweak on his W, but he's fine.
Yes. I'd say increase his base stats and decrease his healing so he doesn't have such a difficult time during the laning phase.
Marthian1 votesTeemo does NOT need buffs on his already toxic kit (no pun intended.) He needs reworked.
IcyPepper1 votesTeemo doesn't need buffs.
Pros actually buy wards.
NemeBro1 votesBefore Darius gets a buff he needs a bugfix.
The fact that his W doesn't apply the attack speed slow is a big blow to his dueling ability.
That his bleed doesn't do the full damage is another big problem.