nasus does not have a weak early game

Morgy Morgy··7 votes·1,434 views

he has the most cancerous slow in the game, and free lifesteal for no real reason plus his ult is basically just a soraka ult that only heals him, as well as making him really big and doing some damage to nearby enemies. he has all the things he needs to stack his q. no champion has poke reliable enough to prevent a nasus from stacking. he'll just heal back whatever health he lost.

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KVbqbFsC8e7 votes

Whats your point? If Nasus didn't have tools to stay in lane and sustain, he'd be completely unviable.

Gear4GangPlank1 votes

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Whats your point? If Nasus didn't have tools to stay in lane and sustain, he'd be completely unviable.

uhm nerf his stacks. even high elo players think he's bullshit

redbull papi2 votes

A thousand times yes! No damage sticks to him and he's supposed to be punished by early game champs, but he can just freeze lane, farm under turret, and shrug off all poke. Nasus forces entire games to be about him.

All that needs to be tuned is his sustain. It's too easy for him to just shrug off damage.

Valexfor2 votes

WHat are you taling about? Nasus' sustain is pretty weak early and unless you have a passive laner he's pretty much screwed. His stacks aren't that easy to get early game since he suffers from poke and the cd is pretty high so it's easy to negate them and if he has to use the slow he will be oom pretty soon. If he's winning the lane or at least isn't feeding you are doing something wrong usually since all meta champs counter him in almost every meta...

Ruin Lance1 votes

he isn't going to be oom once he gets a mana item. plus he goes corrupting pots so that's even more sustain.

Darfaller2 votes

I never get corrupting pot when i play nasus, and i play him a lot. Sure the heal and mana are nice but it makes him susceptable to more dmg early and slows his build. Now i play a lot of nasus, and his early game is weak, but its not horrific, before it was, but now not so much, but barely any better. To beat nasus, you have to go aggressive on him hard and kill him or zone him early then hard freeze the lane and he basically cant stack. If they were to nerf him here's how, reduc the slow on rank 1 w but have it still scale to the amount it does at rank 5 because he desperately needs that slow. Trust me he needs it. And lower the amount of passive lifesteal by like 2% or 3% and he would become perfectly balanaced. If the passive is that much of an issue, and it pains me to say this about my favorite champion, then at max reduce it by 5%. God that hurt.

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Ruin Lance1 votes

so what do you start on nasus then, ruby crystal or cloth armor or something? doran's blade maybe?

by the way it's very hard to play aggressively without pushing the lane, and having the lane push to nasus's tower is exactly how you let him free farm and then get ganked and still be unable to escape if you burn flash because the slow lasts forever.

honestly his early game SHOULD be god awful (which it really isn't that bad unless you're fighting a lane bully or a ranged champion, i've played nasus enough to at least know that.) I really wouldn't care about his later game as much if I felt like I could do more in the laning phase. Lowering his EARLY lifesteal and slow (like you said) is what they should change, and then they could maybe, as a compensation buff, increase his late game lifesteal.

with that being said, nasus is not who they should be looking at right now. they need to be looking at this Poppy abomination.

Darfaller1 votes

The one champ i cannot not stand is fiora (and sometimes yi), but fiora makes me cry because she has everything that makes champion strong in the top lane, innate sustian, consistent dmg, mobility, true dmg. All thsoe 4 in one champ makes top lane not so fun. Also an added bonus, invincibility that can be reflected = why did I decide to play league today.

Ruin Lance1 votes

yeah, fiora is pretty dumb too. i remember i stopped playing league for like 2 weeks when i discovered tank fiora. made me go like 0/5 in lane and she could solo dive me while i was at full hp. not very fun

Valexfor1 votes

When I discovere tank fiora everyone told me I was a crybaby and an idiot, then after 2-3 days everyone was crying about tank fiora... she was just wrong...

Yosuke Apperu1 votes

You've never went teemo against nasus have you?

ARequestOfDeath2 votes

have and the enemy team reported him for feeding

Matezoide1 votes

If Nasus didnt have the means to survive the early game he would garbage.

Literally every meta top laner brutalizes Nasus atm

Dehitay1 votes

As a jungler main, I can tell you that having a Nasus on my team makes things ridiculously easy as long as my bot is half competent. The ONLY way to stop Nasus from farming is the exact thing that makes you a viable ganking target. I saw a Riven counterpick since we had a Nasus and I already knew all I had to do to win was camp top lane. Sure enough, it worked.

Nasus could use 2 very valid nerfs that wouldn't affect his character design, but make him more balanced. One, his passive needs to heal for a flat amount per hit per level instead of giving him a percentage lifesteal. He should have to buy lifesteal of his own to have that kind of sustain.Two, his Q should add X amount of seconds to the cooldown if it doesn't kill the target. That way he can still farm normally, but can't do 800 damage every 2 seconds unless he's finishing things off.

Darfaller1 votes

The problem with ur second nerf is, you kinda destroy the point of nasus being dps and turn him into a champ that must one-shot because near late game, those 2 seconds are life or death, win or lose, even if ur tanky as all hell. I would agree that the new passive you suggested could work very well if it had some decent numbers and if the heal increased with q dmg.

Dehitay1 votes

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The problem with ur second nerf is, you kinda destroy the point of nasus being dps and turn him into a champ that must one-shot because near late game, those 2 seconds are life or death, win or lose, even if ur tanky as all hell. I would agree that the new passive you suggested could work very well if it had some decent numbers and if the heal increased with q dmg.

If you actually build Nasus, dps, then the increased cooldown makes it like any other on hit bonus damage skill (wukong's crushing blow, Jax's emppowered strike). The only thing this would affect is a full tank build which shouldn't have ridiculous dps.

Darfaller1 votes

Let me ask you this, what is the purpose of nasus?

Dehitay1 votes

He was meant to be a bruiser with a skill that gets more powerful as the game goes along. But people realized you could just build him straight up tank and if you Q farm steadily, you still do a ton of damage with a full tank build.

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

"His early game should be god awful! " It already is. The way you describe Susan to me feels you need some glasses. The tank that has insane slow and insane sustain early is Darius .

L9jJn1LAmk1 votes

Sees dumb topic, thinks "to be this dumb it must be from NA". my my what a surprise!

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