Frozen Mallet needs balenced

1st Time Yasuo·Sep 19, 2016·1 votes·558 views

I can not stand its too good at what it does, the slow is too much i under stand they just nerfed it so that couldn't not build tank and deal good amounts of mage but you have champs like that truly abuse it as much as tank Yasuo if not more, The fact that Gnar's Q slows and he can build an item that will make sure his hyper passive triggers 95% of the time because of his base slow on his q and with mallet on his auto's it drives me crazy because you can also never get away and I find it way too strong slow could be reduced to like 25% for melee and like 15% for ranged

15 Comments

Elite4RunnerSep 19, 20162 votes

How about if the slow increased as a stacking function?

5% per stack on-hit, up to a maximum of 6 stacks for ranged / 8 stacks for melee.

This would make initial engagements less oppressive, but drawn out fights or champions with high attack speed will be ~~more~~ equally oppressive.

Keep in mind that this means it will be important for other tank/bruiser items will become more encouraged so that the champion can reach full stacks. Higher damage items may not offer the resistances needed to reach full stacks. Higher attack speed items may not offer the damage needed to out trade your opponent.

Elite4RunnerSep 19, 20162 votes

I'm sorry, is this thread about Frozen Mallet in general, or about how good it is on Gnar, ..... because it is meant to be good on him ...

WinBoatSep 19, 20162 votes

I think these Frozen Mallet threads are just Gnar complaints really cause he's the only champion that really uses the item outside of yasuo in which its not even recommended for Yas.

Then again, that's good cause I like Gnar, wouldn't want to see any complaint threads with his name, and without the movement speed slow, this item would just be a normal item but with more HP, and Gnar would be way less stronger, and his win rate would just drop completely although he'd still be good, but much harder to chase down players, and beat them 1v1 cause mini Gnar relies on kiting and outplays with E.

I think if they knocked off a lot of the HP, that would fix the item. Just make it 500 HP, and keep the slow.

Imperial JapanSep 19, 20161 votes

I mean it is a pretty core item for gnar

Gary B EnkelisSep 19, 20161 votes

Yeah health and AD, but maybe the passive can be adjusted if that is an issue.

Imperial JapanSep 19, 20161 votes

Bobbi the passive is why it's a core item

Gary B EnkelisSep 19, 20161 votes

Erm. The passive helps but the AD and HP directly tie into his abilities....

Imperial JapanSep 19, 20161 votes

There are many different items that would be "core" to him if that were just the case.

Gary B EnkelisSep 19, 20161 votes

Ok, how many items combine HP and AD?

Edit: And don't also have mana, which is a wasted stat on Gnar .

I see item 3053 item 3071 item 3748 item 3022

Ehh. I dunno. item 3022 offers the most health.

I'm only saying item 3022 is an item that fits what Gnar wants regardless of the passive. In my (often flawed) opinion. The passive is a bonus, and if it's truly a problem then it should be fixed. I'm not saying it's a problem. I'm not that aware of game issues. I think the passive slow sounds amazing on Gnar and am ashamed to have not realized until there was a bandwagon. It's been in his recommended items since release (if memory serves me).

Random: Can you imagine if there was an item that gave AS and HP that wasn't item 3078 ?

SerevasSep 19, 20161 votes

I would argue the passive is more than just a bonus as it guarantees he'll be able to proc hyper's 3 stack as much as he wants until he turns mega.

Gary B EnkelisSep 19, 20161 votes

Alright but the other stats (HP and AD) are also very good on Gnar .

Ok, I'm not an expert so I may be exaggerating, but his kit does take AD and HP.

SerevasSep 19, 20161 votes

They absolutely are, I'm just saying the passive is far better than just being an after thought.

Buff Jax pleaseSep 19, 20161 votes

Make it melee only.

OleandervineSep 19, 20161 votes

I think the Mallet is probably going to be removed. A year or so ago it was on the chopping block near the time Atma's Impaler was removed due to the problems associated with the item. Since it seems those problems are resurfacing again, I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled the trigger this time and scrapped it.

LemurMonsterSep 20, 20161 votes

I wish people would stop with this. I always build this item on Gnar nearly since I 1st got to play him. It is a recommend build on him on some builds in fact.. Dunno why are starting to whine on it now...

it's harder to chase down players than most think now because of the dumb amount of slows ability's now have among other things. it's like almost every single ability has a damn slow & there way overdone!

Sadly becasue I blame the amount of mobility champs they been popping out. it caused slows to be much stronger than ever & the removal of boot enchantments sure doesn't help...

point is... why should I be punished for building smart?