Thought's on a Varus/Kog nerf or maybe just Rageblade ?

1st Time Yasuo·Feb 18, 2018·3 votes·797 views

I'm enjoying this season so far, it's had it's up's and downs but it's been enjoyable, but I feel like / adc's i.e ( / ) are a little to strong at the current moment, it's nice to see in meta again but I feel like the dps both / get from OnHit.exe build is to strong with out there really being a solid trade off, not so much on kog's stand point with his 47% W/L but Varus has been everywhere this season.

Edit: Or maybe just an adjust on Varus/Guinsoo's ?

15 Comments

NodirjonSattarovFeb 18, 20183 votes

on-hit is outscaled by crit so it's understandable that they're doing well in the early game. Rageblade should be toned down quite a bit though. It shouldn't pump out nearly as much magic damage as it is right now especially since it's paired with Wits End

AhristocatsFeb 18, 20182 votes

yep guinsoo needs a nerf on ranged champions

SithesisLordFeb 18, 20181 votes

Or Riot could just force Varus and Kog'Maw back into building towards their artillery spells because they´re artillery ADCs and leave Rageblade alone.

AhristocatsFeb 18, 20181 votes

my problem with old lethality varus is that he built tear and essentially could use Q permanently without any risk so if you dodged his Q you didn't feel rewarded

1st Time YasuoFeb 20, 20181 votes

Agree with this ranged champs are the main abusers of it anyway. (Ex Kayle Varus KogMaw not saying Kayle is broken just listing her because she's a item 3124 abuser.

HayaishiFeb 18, 20182 votes

There's really no way to nerf Varus without gutting him. He doesn't really deserve it.

He is entirely carried by his W and passive since his Q was gutted. It's rageblade that makes him viable.

Nanuk PihoqahiakFeb 18, 20181 votes

They can shift power out of his on-hit in his kit, and shift more power into his Q. If they want to avoid the Lethality issue, make it scale off of crit chance partially. This way you can't build both Lethality and Crit bringing him back to his problem-state when Lethality was first introduced.

Stars ShaperFeb 18, 20182 votes

So, you guys had skillshot/letahlity Varus (and Jhin) nerfed because "muh can't dodge arrow that deals 33% less damage for each enemy thta apsses through", Now you want even the AA versioon of it nerfed for what?

You want Point&Click monsters like Tristana or passive crit stacking Sivir to be the only viable choices?

1st Time YasuoFeb 20, 20183 votes

I'm just saying he deals too much damage atm IMO, not asking for a gut but just a re-adjust or something, change some scaling around. Another option I saw mentioned later in this thread was Guinsoo's could be nerfed on ranged champs but would be fine with me maybe just increase the number of AA's needed for ranged champs to proc the additional on-hit effects ? or lower the attack speed and ap/ad they receive per stack ?

Stars ShaperFeb 20, 20181 votes

And what would the effect be except nerfing Varus and let Tristana, Sivir and Caitlyn get the spotlight again?

InTheoryFeb 18, 20181 votes

Rageblade is one of the strongest items in the game. At 8 stacks it becomes 162% gold efficient and you know how fast that is being stacked by marksmen. Even though it is incredibly expensive, just makes it very slot efficient while also being super gold efficient. Every champion that has both AP and AD ratios on their abilities will synergise extremly well with it. I don't think its too good for the game at its current design. But I think there are larger problems than just single items.

Pokemonred200Feb 18, 20181 votes

Rageblade still doesn't have the 'double on hits every 4 autos' cause that the Phantom Hit had when it was on Sated Devourer.

I will forever see this as an issue.

AirKingNeoFeb 18, 20181 votes

so make it viable on no one?

Pokemonred200Feb 18, 20181 votes

That clause was for ranged champions only, and the ranged champs that used it at the time (Kindred, Kayle, and Kog most notably) still functioned fine with it.

I would never suggest it takes that long to proc on melee champs, because that's just stupid. It can stay at 2 hits for them.

AirKingNeoFeb 18, 20181 votes

Noooo. Kog'maw was a jungler to use it. Kayle jungle died that day. Kindred was overpowered.