Should assassins have more punishing mana costs or higher cooldowns with levels?

i cant move wtf··2 votes·235 views

When a fed fizz has low enough cooldowns and mana costs that he can kill the mid laner, then the adc right after, then the top laner, then the jg and then the support, is it really accurate to say its a "burst and escape kit"? How is it functionally different than a "sustained dps kit" at that point?

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Takazaki1 votes

short answer: No

Snarky answer : "when a fed x penta kills we should nerf the whole class in an absurd way the makes no sense because balance"

i cant move wtf2 votes

I just think the assassin update was a fail overall. What's the counterplay to playing against a fed fizz? It's in champion select where you play fizz yourself or some other similarly busted assassin like LeBlanc. The idea of being able to 1-shot an enemy and having tools to get out seems fine, but champions in this role, if they get ahead, have no reason to escape anymore and can use their "get in and out tools" to make it so its impossible for the enemy escape. The concept is busted in the theory itself. Make their ultimates increase with level instead of decrease to offset the 1-shot damage otherwise the concept of a late game "carry" is irrelevant since there's no difference in sustained damage.

Takazaki2 votes
  1. what counter play is there to a fed anything? you're talking about the extreams of a champion. Fed garens dont die and 1 shot carries but thats fair because he cant run away as well?

  2. you effectively gimp an entire class making them impossible to push leads because the more the level damage the longer they have to wait to use it.

  3. reset assassin completely negate this idea as you cannot implement it without effectively just deleting them

  4. your getting one shot because your not a tank, assassins ( unless fed ) dont just one shot everything, and in some cases they still can't one shot a carry. ]

  5. there is no need to nerf assassins, because then you should nerf mages as well who do the same job from a 500-600+ range Annie Ahri Brand Lux Orianna Syndra Ziggs

Getting one shot isnt a problem, 0 counter play is ok when something is so fed kench would be benched.

also you wanna stop fizz? have a tank front line to stop his ult from touching the back line then locking him down if he goes in, or play a mage because banshee's is fucking stupidly effective against him.

Incognonymous1 votes

Assassins should have poor waveclear. It puts the onus on champ kills rather than playing passively and farming up gold.

i cant move wtf1 votes

I agree with that actually.

The 14th Angel1 votes

no just revert them back to 6.21

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