revert shen.

Jerry SeinfeId·12/23/2018, 7:39:22 PM·21 votes·8,950 views

In about 1 month it'll be 3 years since shen was reworked.

Riot's reasoning was that they'd take the "generic" parts out of his kit. I say they made him so fuckintg boring and generic i've barely touched him the last 3 years.

Old Q: Vorpal Blade Point and click ability that did fairly little damage unless you went ap, it's real strength was it's heal You and your team could damage the target and be healed. This in combination with ki strike made shen a duelist tank.

Old passive Ki strike Deal damage on aa based on flat dmg and 10% hp scaling. AA's reduce cd, double while feint holds.

I used to build Botrk into tank and duel for days, run after someone and throw swords, actual fucking swords, none of that pussy shit like daggers or shurikens. THIS MAN USED TO YEET FRICKING SWORDS.

Now, his Q is a generic AA amplifier and his passive is this shitty ass ghost sword.

Ki strike was one of the most satisfying animations in the game, my friend said the same when i discussed shen with him. Obviously it's subjective.

The only thing i'll say is an improvement over old shen are his models and his W. The dodge zone was a nice idea, too bad it accompanied all this other garbage.

And what problems did it solve? Did shen stop being a problem in pro play? he sure did, after you gutted the shit outta him once more ofcourse.

Are your other reworks perfect? no they're not, but they atleast still deliver on the fantasy i liked. Sometimes i miss being this midget busting peoples skulls as poppy, but then i build triforce and realize it's still an option at least. She can still go bruiser. Warwick had all his abilities changed and still delivers on his old fantasy better than his old form even did.

as shen, nothing i do brings back old shen. I tried going botrk just for the sake of having sustain and some form of ranged ability, but it's just not the same.

Anyway that's all for my rant this time, see ya'll next time.Shen

26 Comments

Hotarµ12/23/2018, 8:01:59 PM12 votes

I don't think that he's boring per say, I think Riot just isn't capitalizing enough on the immense potential Shen has. A beefy samurai protector is one of the most interesting concepts to me and it could be done really well if his ultimate didn't hold him back so much. Right now Shen is basically equal to (current) Ornn in that he'll never get any buffs as long as his old ultimate is there. It's just so strong in the right hands that the rest of his kit suffers for it.

Why did they make him an immobile duelist who has barely any damage and gets destroyed by every other duelist in the game? Sure, he can survive in lane (sometimes) but it's impossible to build anything but full tank and actually be useful against a competent team.

Lore wise, now that Akali has (basically) left the Kinkou Order, Kennen should leave (either through being dismissed by Shen or quitting on his own terms) and Shen should be the lone hand of justice for Ionia.

Gameplay wise, they should just double down on his defensive abilities and force him into more of a Support/Tank role rather than Tank/Fighter/Support. Right now he's being stretched too thin and it's hard to deviate from Shen's linear gameplay. The most he'll ever do fighter wise is slap a Titanic Hydra on and use auto resets, he's just not threatening enough to make a fighter playstyle viable.

Personally I think it would be cool to give him a Lee Sin ability format, where using one ability could set up for another more offensive or defensive ability.

Sorry for going off track but I love Shen and it sucks to see him in his current state. That's my 2 cents, anyway.

Super Sandmanne12/23/2018, 9:09:50 PM9 votes

Is it me, or has tank play in general gotten less fun as the seasons roll by? Is there even a viable tank jungler right now?

Saianna12/24/2018, 2:50:39 AM3 votes

Old shen was boring and had very shallow kit. New shen is (IMO) overly complicated with his sword feature and relies alot on skill and micromanaging of player. But all in all, its the way he kinda lost his theme that's the saddest part. He used to be beefy ninja, while now he's a dude throwing and summoning medlieval sword that does magic tricks.

Revert isn't really needed, but rather another rework. Something more in line with old Shen.

ThisName1sDumb12/24/2018, 12:22:05 AM3 votes

Revert Shen? Don't you mean... River Shen?

SweedishGunner12/24/2018, 3:46:24 AM2 votes

I'd love old Shen back, I used to build Nashors, Guinsoo's into full tank on him and it was so much fun. Like you I haven't really touched him after the update.

Also +1 for yeeting swords.

Sire Hippington12/24/2018, 3:16:14 AM2 votes

Ki strike was one of the most satisfying animations in the game

It wasn't just the animation, the sound also packed a punch, which paired with the decent chunk of damage and awsome animation made it one of the most statisfying things to use in the entier game, rivaled only by old Poppys Q.

Unexisted12/24/2018, 3:19:03 AM2 votes

It’s time for riot to create a new ninja champion, instead of rework on shen.

Ragnaveil12/24/2018, 5:13:26 AM2 votes

I'd say at least partially revert it. Make his passive have a better scaling shield, and give him a unique second passive that looks into his dueling. Strip new Q and bring back the yeeting of swords. I like the direction of his current W, but removing the sword aspect would make it better (and not bringing back old W ties into the second passive thing I was talking about). E could see the return of the damage reduction, but it shouldn't be the same numbers. R's shield should lose effectiveness (almost take a battering like Galio's R took).

Sukishoo12/24/2018, 5:27:47 AM2 votes

They can't "revert" him. It's been far too long, plus he has a new skin since that time that didn't exist with the old kit. They'd have to build completely new assets for everything of his.

mister foolish5/22/2019, 5:03:20 AM1 votes

rito pls make ninja champion with Shen s old kit and name him shawn

TheLegendaddy12/24/2018, 7:32:44 AM1 votes

i support this! new Shen bores me to tears.

And A Real Hiero12/24/2018, 4:36:41 PM1 votes

If Shen could get a Warwick tier rework I would never be toxic in Riots house again, I mean I quit cause hes bad so thats kinda the point right now too. Shen can't deal with all the new stuff that keeps coming out, conqueror, Irelia, mobility creep, damage creep, and armor piercing being more prevalent than ever.

Every year Shen gets weaker and weaker, be it nerfs to his kit, items, runes or simply champs that bring a overloaded kit to the table he can't realistically deal with. I would like it if he got some form of viability, even if it meant sacrificing his ult. But that won't happen so I guess I'm freed from league.

Vlada Cut12/24/2018, 4:49:34 PM1 votes

Doesn't bork's and liandrie's max HP damage stack with his Q's max hp damage? I hate how his W is stuck on his spirit sword and not to Sheb himself. Too mich energy to QW at your spot just to block some AA's.

hhaavviikk12/23/2018, 9:50:06 PM1 votes

old shen could be played AP as well, no longer possible, now all you do is just AA and that's it, if all I want to do is right click people I'd play an ADC...

Refer A Friend 112/24/2018, 11:10:15 PM1 votes

Won't lie, I sometimes miss playing river Shen. Would be somewhat neat to see it back.