to everyone saying that Vayne isnt outranged by ADCs

Byakuya Kuchiki··1 votes·547 views

Ashe 600 +50 Caitlyn 650 +100 Corki 550 +0 is mainly picked to have magic damage when lacking, also main damage source has a range of 1225 +675 Draven 550 +0 HERE 1 CHAMPION THAT IS EQUALLY RANGED Ezreal 550+0 is mainly used for his 1150 +600 range spell Graves 525 -25 HERES 1 CHAMPION THAT IS OUTRANGED Jinx 525 -25 is almost always in her 700 range +150 Kalista 550 +0 KogMaw 500 -50 is usually in his 710 +160 range Lucian 500 -50 SECOND CHAMPION LOWER RANGED MissFortune 550 +0 Quinn 525 -25 mainly picked for her blind plus burst, also isnt even close to in a good spot Sivir 500 -50 picked for her ult Tristana 500-669 always outranges Twitch 550-850 always equal or more range Varus 575 +25

SO WE COME TO A GRAND TOTAL OF TWO WHOLE ADCs WITH LESS RANGE THAN VAYNE

edited in a great point:

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Vayne has short range because she has no abilities which allow her to affect enemies outside of her autoattack range, not because her autoattack range is any shorter than the standard for ADCs.

Ashe WR Corki QR Caitlyn QR Draven ER Ezreal QWR Graves QR Jinx WR Kalista Q KogMaw QER Lucian QWR MissFortune QR Quinn Q Sivir QW Urgot QE Varus QER

Tristana and Twitch are the only other ADCs who can't affect enemies outside of their autoattack range and both have abilities which can extend their autoattack range significantly. [I suppose Twitch W can technically count, but it's pretty minor]

ty EndlessSorcerer

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Dr Poro6 votes

So... Quinn doesn't counter as shorter? And Sivir isn't just picked for her ult. She has harass through her Q and W. Also, there are 4 champs with equal range without long range poke. That's already 7 ADCs that don't outrange her.

And even for those who do outrange her, you can easily close a 25 or 50 range gap during their AA animation to return the favor. With your Q, you can close just about any gap needed.

Too Ton5 votes

You need to include the ones you said were shorter but didn't count.

Vistha Kai4 votes

Two? I see seven.

Sir Yamazuki4 votes

I think you need to recount.

Sasogwa2 votes

You misspelled 5 (3 if we remove kog and jinx). And she also has the same range as 5/6 others if we count twitch. Cause you know, if we don't count champions that have same/lower range but other strengths, just be aware that Vayne has... spammable dash, knockback-stun, % health true damage, invisibility, high duelling potential, huge lategame scaling. Which is quite some strength.

PS : from a logical point of view, if you wanna prove Vayne IS outranged by other ADCs, you have to prove most of them have strictly superior range, not superior or equal.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

remove % true damage. slightly increase flat true damage. have her ult grant increased attack range.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

You can't say "oh but they are picked for different reasons" because you are just dismissing your own argument at that point.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Vayne has short range because she has no abilities which allow her to affect enemies outside of her autoattack range, not because her autoattack range is any shorter than the standard for ADCs.

Ashe WR Corki QR Caitlyn QR Draven ER Ezreal QWR Graves QR Jinx WR Kalista Q KogMaw QER Lucian QWR MissFortune QR Quinn Q Sivir QW Urgot QE Varus QER

Tristana and Twitch are the only other ADCs who can't affect enemies outside of their autoattack range and both have abilities which can extend their autoattack range significantly. [I suppose Twitch W can technically count, but it's pretty minor]

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

{quoted}

Vayne has short range because she has no abilities which allow her to affect enemies outside of her autoattack range, not because her autoattack range is any shorter than the standard for ADCs.

Ashe WR Corki QR Caitlyn QR Draven ER Ezreal QWR Graves QR Jinx WR Kalista Q KogMaw QER Lucian QWR MissFortune QR Quinn Q Sivir QW Urgot QE Varus QER

Tristana and Twitch are the only other ADCs who can't affect enemies outside of their autoattack range and both have abilities which can extend their autoattack range significantly. [I suppose Twitch W can technically count, but it's pretty minor]

i would rather pick vayne with all her uncounterable damage and safety than ashe/quinn or whatever champ just because they have 1 or 2 spells that can damage at a higher range

Lugg1 votes

And let's just forget that she can tumble into range on ANY of these champs, impale them into the wall for a stun, and outtrade them anytime after level 1.

Erockandroll1 votes

The problem is that you really can kite with that range advantage. Her Passive, + her Q, both of which are bolstered with her ult, and lets throw a BotRK active on top of that. Good luck at keeping her out of range.

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