Why does Lucians dash mana cost go down

Eternvl·6/7/2016, 1:43:09 PM·145 votes·6,946 views

To 0 mana at 5 points? Is there and actual reason or explanation for that? I wish Kog'Maws E didn't cost 120 mana at 5 points in.

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Tis a nice day6/7/2016, 4:10:33 PM25 votes

No extra distance. No extra damage. Only thing left to reduce is the dash's cooldown, and I do not want a Lucian with any more dashes.

Only Play Darius6/7/2016, 4:03:07 PM22 votes

Because they want him to be THE mobile skirmishing ADC. It's been reworked multiple times actually, it used to have a flat mana cost and no CD reduction on passive, but would cleanse slows and CD reset if Lucian got a kill/assist during Culling.

Utility Veigar6/7/2016, 1:47:43 PM15 votes

Amen.

Kog'Maw suffers from being mana starved while Lucian gets free dashes. Pls rito. :(

Jesus is Savior6/7/2016, 2:13:44 PM15 votes

I think it happened like this:

  1. Buffed to 0 mana at all ranks ("we want Lucian to be the mobility ADC, and gating the dash to mana when his passive helps reset it is counter-intuitive blah blah")

  2. OOPS that made him broken -> nerfed to have a mana cost again, but reduced to 0 at max rank (nerf to his early game)

The Deckowner6/7/2016, 4:39:01 PM13 votes

I heard it was a compensation to the removal of slow cleanse from his e.

IllllllIIIIlllll6/7/2016, 2:40:53 PM10 votes

well, he doesn't get any extra distance from maxing e, and the cooldown reduction (18 -1 per rank) is really meh

Hello I am Bird6/7/2016, 2:17:02 PM7 votes

Quinn's ult costs no mana at max, if that makes you feel any better ._. That's a hyper-mobility spell that does over 150 damage and has a cd of 2 seconds. I mean sure, it can't be used in combat, but it's still kinda insane

Habitz6/7/2016, 5:27:57 PM5 votes

It's a scaling thing. The idea is it'll hinder him at early game but late game he will not have to worry about it.

Sylverblitz6/7/2016, 3:13:06 PM5 votes

How about Shaco and his stealth blink? That gets lower in cost as you rank it. Considering the utility it also has it's quite a ludicrous ability.

spombjop6/7/2016, 1:53:53 PM5 votes

Fizz E 130 mana, that's more than malzahar ult rofl

RespectPlus6/7/2016, 11:23:56 PM4 votes

his dash used to cost 0 mana at all levels...

Faceroll Tactics6/7/2016, 8:32:24 PM3 votes

Because there would be no reason to level it past rank 1

UltimateDiscord6/7/2016, 7:42:37 PM2 votes

It used to be zero mana at all ranks on release.

DrOinkleBerry6/7/2016, 8:47:51 PM2 votes

Kog'Maw E deals AoE damage in a massive line. It's an exceptionally powerful peeling tool on a champion that needs to be peeled. It's a lot more valuable power-wise than Lucian E. Lucian E is like a third of the distance of a flash and has a long CD unless he auto-attacks. It can seem overbearing on a fed Lucian, but a not-fed or starved Lucian can hardly use it to save himself without help from his team. Also, what Lucian even maxes E early on anyway? A lvl 9 Lucian, even when fed, is not going to have 0 mana cost on his E, so it's not like the ability is even abused in the first place.

lolipopevelynn6/9/2016, 6:36:09 PM2 votes

it was a core identity on him to be able to constantly dash in fights. because of this if he went OOM he would actually be pretty useless as he would have zero mobility and no way of constantly activating his passive.

keep in mind that when lucian was first revealed and then released, a BIG consensus was that he actually sucked, even when his E use to purge slows. when people started building him correctly and buying ghostblade on him the big thing to bitch about was his damage and not his mobility. even the most recent nerfs was to his damage only. his mobility is the core aspect of his kit, so he needs that 0 mana on his E for mid-late game, especially if they keep nerfing his damage.