any reason autofill has been perm enabled?

Octavia·Dec 9, 2016·5 votes·1,135 views

how can riot justify 10 mins queue being worse than 30 mins of me basically trolling because I can't play support for shit? There is no point me even playing, if I get support I just lose and I don't find it even remotely fun, just a waste of my time.

if i get autofill support again im not playing it because if I do I lose by default. There is no point playing the game in this state.

just simply going to say in chat "i cannot play support", if no one else can then great, I'm enemy jungle singed then, more chance winning with that than feeding botlane.

in the past 10+ games I've queued I have got my primary role twice, I have had it more than that but because of autofill people skip so it doesn't count.

The game has been fucked by this. Completely.

18 Comments

DrCyanideDec 9, 20164 votes

If you can play Mid Lane you can play Support. You poke, you peal, you ward, you're good (or at least good enough). The only position it makes sense for people to say they can't play it is Jungle, because it's nothing like the other roles.

ShinkoMinoriDec 9, 20163 votes

The silver 2 has spoken

DrCyanideDec 9, 20162 votes

Am I wrong? Surely anyone above Silver 2 has the positioning and game knowledge to do even better at Support than I.

OctaviaDec 9, 20162 votes

and so does everyone else in the game so you get destroyed, feed, tilted and then any games you dont get support you'll feed anyway because you're so tilted.

DrCyanideDec 9, 20161 votes

If your game knowledge and positioning are good enough in Mid/Top/ADC to keep you from feeding, there's no reason they shouldn't be good enough when you're Support. As a Jungle Main, you've even got a slight edge in being able to predict when a gank would come. Do your opponents suddenly have more game knowledge or position better against you when you're auto filled to Support than when you're Mid/Top/ADC? Surely not.

I suspect your problem has more to do with you tilting yourself. You convince yourself that you can't Support, and you either give in to that mentality at the start or you tilt harder than you otherwise would when you die.

No one expects the player auto filled to Support to play as well as the Thresh 1-trick on the other side, but I have no doubt you can play Support at a passable level for your rank.

OctaviaDec 9, 20162 votes

If your game knowledge and positioning are good enough in Mid/Top/ADC to keep you from feeding, there's no reason they shouldn't be good enough when you're Support.

Wrong.

As a Jungle Main, you've even got a slight edge in being able to predict when a gank would come.

Wow that's really gonna help with deficiencies in about 500 other areas.

I suspect your problem has more to do with you tilting yourself. You convince yourself that you can't Support,

I dont enjoy support, that's why I don't play support. I am also not good at support, that's another reason why I don't play support. So yes, I get tilted, and I can't help that because I don't enjoy it, that's why for the past season I never played it - but now riot is forcing me to do it. So they forced me to uninstall.

No one expects the player auto filled to Support to play as well as the Thresh 1-trick on the other side,

That's not acceptable in ranked, I shouldn't be given a role that I am shit at if the system in S6 did not do that.

but I have no doubt you can play Support at a passable level for your rank.

I am an OTP, I can barely play anyway at a passable level for my rank let alone support.

You can say what you want, bottom line is I have never had more toxic, less fun games than these games. The root of toxicity is the game itself as Dunkey said, it's just not fun to play, and autofill is causing that.

I am not enjoying the game because of autofill, I have no fun playing it, I lose because I have no interest in getting good and I know I won't ever be good if I haven't already got good after 6 seasons at it.

There is no point me continuing, bottom line is autofill has ruined the game, I am not playing again until it is removed.

OctaviaDec 9, 20162 votes

I don't need your S2 analysis I know I cannot play support. Also I only play Quinn mid and I basically main Jungle. So there.

AbyssphereDec 9, 20162 votes

Have you considered trying to learn support? That's what people had to do before season 6 you know.

OctaviaDec 9, 20162 votes

Difference is back then you could almost always say "please don't let me support", now people just feel they're entitled to a role if they get it because they fear they'll get autofilled later - and they are entitled to it, that's how the system works.

Doesn't mean the system is good.

I played 1000s of games in S6, never had to play support and had great fun, got my highest rank ever.

Now I'm feeding in gold games because I'm so titled from getting autofilled games ago that I don't give a shit.

I don't WANT to support, nor should I have to if they already fixed the problem in S6.

The game causes the toxicity because it's just not fun to play, every game I get another autofilled support who doesn't want support, they feed, everyone flames, game goes on and on and nobody cares at that point.

10 mins queue > getting a 30 min game of autofilled support and tilted for the rest of the day.

And autofill especially fucks with me, because I'm an otp.

And don't say "OH JUST GET GOOD AT EVERYONE", yeah, because it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy to do that.

I can play support. I know how it works. But I'm bad at it, I don't enjoy it and I feed every time. Do you know how hard it is to learn a champ at diamond level? I play Quinn, I am ok with Quinn, suddenly autofilled and I'm forced to play against a support multiple leagues ahead of me in support skill.

I am not learning it, Riot is the problem here, they've created this environment and have fucked the game. They need to fix it or I'll continue to fix it myself by keeping League uninstalled.

I am not good enough to play support at the level of the other roles and I never will be, nothing can ever change that. Riot needs to remove autofill to stop this bullshit.

AbyssphereDec 9, 20161 votes

I realise autofill sucks and I sympathise with your dislike of the system, I just take issue with your response to that being "I'll just troll every time I'm support". There's nothing you can do to change the system so you need to adapt to it. If you're going to spend the season or even a couple of months being forced to support on occasion then just taking all of those occasions as guaranteed losses that you won't even try to avoid is really dumb both for your ambitions in ranked and also those of the people you're playing with.

In season 6 it is important for people to be able to play every role, and especially support. Yeah, that's really hard to learn how to do and definitely won't be fun. But that's it. You either do what you need to succeed or you fail and I'm not sure why your preferred choice is to fail. Just don't play ranked if you're gonna take a loss and force a loss on your team every time you play support. And you can at least get good enough at support not to feed lane, I have no idea how someone would be incapable of stopping feeding in any role. Just start maining Soraka and Janna and be a really lazy/useless support who sits behind their ADC for the entire laning phase, it's at least preferable to intentional feeding with """support""" Singed.

OctaviaDec 9, 20162 votes

I realise autofill sucks and I sympathise with your dislike of the system, I just take issue with your response to that being "I'll just troll every time I'm support". There's nothing you can do to change the system so you need to adapt to it.

Yes there is, I can uninstall. Fixed. I can also complain across all lines of contact to Riot and show my contempt for this awful system so I can play this game again.

And also I said

"of me basically trolling because I can't play support for shit"

So don't misquote me thanks.

. If you're going to spend the season or even a couple of months being forced to support on occasion then just taking all of those occasions as guaranteed losses that you won't even try to avoid is really dumb both for your ambitions in ranked and also those of the people you're playing with.

On occasion? I've played support more times in the past 20 games than my primary role.

In season 6 it is important for people to be able to play every role, and especially support.

No it's not, season 6 you had to know two roles, you would always get one or the other and the game was perfect other than long queue times.

Yeah, that's really hard to learn how to do and definitely won't be fun.

Wow, making a change that ISN'T FUN. That's a good idea that totally doesn't need reverting!

Just don't play ranked if you're gonna take a loss and force a loss on your team every time you play support.

I can't help it, and why should I change myself because the game changed itself? I was playing ranked fine, got into diamond which is the top 1%.

Now you're telling me I should not play because I'm gonna take a loss and "force it on my team" if I get support? How is that my fault? If I wanted support I would have queued for it. I know I am bad at it, that's why I didn't queue for it.

Just start maining Soraka and Janna and be a really lazy/useless support who sits behind their ADC for the entire laning phase, it's at least preferable to intentional feeding with """support""" Singed.

I would do much better trolling with support singed or ad any champion than I would with a real support, I'm currently about 0-20 over 5 seasons of Sona in ranked. NEVER won a game, around 20 losses. I cannot play support at this level, that's the bottom line and its Riot's fault for not changing the system.

Anyway, I'm done with League, if the autofill is never removed then I am not playing again, it's quite simple.

AbyssphereDec 10, 20161 votes

I'm replying to you to try and help you have a slightly less shit time with this situation but your attitude to someone with no bad intentions to you is really woeful so I'm going to stop now. Enjoy quitting.

OctaviaDec 10, 20162 votes

says the guy who just said

Just don't play ranked if you're gonna take a loss and force a loss on your team every time you play support.

please do stop, because nobody is gonna read it

AbyssphereDec 10, 20161 votes

I stand by that advice; I do not think it is worth your time to play ranked if you're going to accept losses that often - it's a huge waste of time for you when you could be doing more enjoyable and productive stuff and that's before you get into it being a dickish thing to do to your teammates. I don't see the problem with that quote of mine at all.

OctaviaDec 10, 20161 votes

So according to you because Riot changed the queue system I am banned from playing ranked and it is a dick move me trying to play the game I have played for 5 years.

Yeah ok, you shouldn't play ranked because you're silver and dragging everyone's elo down, I could beat you with a PS4 controller so please never queue again, how about that? NEVER play ranked again until you get good please, you waste everyone's time.

AbyssphereDec 10, 20161 votes

I said that if you don't intend to try to win your games then you should probably stop playing ranked. It is a dick move to play the game if you're not going to try to win, yes. No getting around that, sorry.

I'm not dragging Silver people's MMR down any more than a Plat person is dragging Plat people's MMR down, so no that's a pretty bad attempt to throw my point back at me. Are you like, 12? I thought you'd been playing the game 5 years.

OctaviaDec 10, 20161 votes

I said that if you don't intend to try to win your games then you should probably stop playing ranked.

At NO POINT did I say I didn't "INTEND" to win, if I didn't "INTEND" to win why the fuck would I be queueing in the first place?

It is a dick move to play the game if you're not going to try to win, yes. No getting around that, sorry.

It's a dick move for putting words in people's mouths

I'm not dragging Silver people's MMR down any more than a Plat person is dragging Plat people's MMR down, so no that's a pretty bad attempt to throw my point back at me. Are you like, 12? I thought you'd been playing the game 5 years.

At least I directly responded to what you are, silver, instead of making up crap that nobody said (please point me to the part where I said "I WILL RUN DOWN MID EVERY TIME I GET SUPPORT").