@Riot Ghostcrawler Would like a response to this question…

Liquid Dario · 2016-08-20T19:40:52.139Z

So there is a rumor going around right now which kind of is not a rumor since you guys have went into it several times. But its about this whole 2 seperate ladder idea. I would really like for you to go in depth here because the idea of this rumored 2 seperate ladders makes little to no sense and just seems like your coating dynamic que up with some chocolate to make it seem different in season 7 but really its the exact same thing. My point is even if you put two different ladders up you can still get matched up as a solo with a dynamic que squad ... then whats the difference ? its basically the same thing that dynamic que is now. except now we have a solo rank and a dynamic que rank, supposedly with different boarders for solo/dynamic. This does not allow solo Q their own que or match us up with only other solo players so this does not fix the issue of dynamic que its still going to be the same thing with a shiny coat of paint. I don't know if you know this but a turd with sprinkles on it is still a turd. Ranked que in 2017 is still going to suck and suffer from the same problems it did this year for us solo Q players.

redfeenixAug 22, 20164 votes

Take your time you fucked up a whole ranked season .... Hopefully you can salvage something and make ranked great again .

Honestly I have barely played any ranked this season, when previously I would've spammed only ranked games and hundreds of them.

Rank is not fun anymore.... It's no different than normal queue.

I hope you realized how boring and irrelevant this season was for ranked players, and do something to make it at least a little appealing to play next year. It might've just been my elo, but none of my ranked games were taken seriously. Legit every game had trolls etc. People that didnt play to win.

In other ranked games (again it might just be my low rank this season since i didnt play ranked), the ranked queues are much more competitive. People are playing their damn hardest to win and those are extremely fun high stakes games.

Whenever I have the urge to play rank I close league and play hero League in hots. It's more fun and satisfying winning and ranking in that gsme than in league, where ranked games feel like a joke / normals. Perhaps this is because blizzard has solo q?

Ranked games have no stakes this year. Hope you can fix that. Or don't blizzard is always there to pick up your slack ;)

Take a page out of blizzard's book. They offer a ton of cool rewards like mounts portraits and gold for ranking up.... Leagues rewards are mediocre in comparison.

Edit: a little harsh, I'm sure you didn't need this early on Monday. I meant to say do your best hopefully season 7 wont be the utter disaster that was season 6.

Or listen to community feedback when we ask for solo queue or for you guys not to update velkoz.

Nah still too harsh .... Dont worry you guys are still better than blizzard (for now). At least you communicate and show intent to improve. And that's really all we want ... For you guys to share / communicate and listen to our feedback to improve.

Best of luck bud!

DathosrAug 22, 20169 votes

I'm a little skeptical that giving us more time to respond will make much of a difference. Last season you announced DQ at the beginning of November and within a day or two the community had told you a lot of problems with the system and gave a lot of suggestions.

The problem was that Riot's response to the community was mostly "Wait and try it first before you judge it" instead of taking complaints and suggestions seriously.

Then you guys went ahead and launched it with the season start, which was a terrible idea in itself. And guess what? A lot of the problems we had pointed out over two months prior turned out to be problems.

Our responses and suggestions don't mean anything if you guys choose to ignore them.

redfeenixAug 22, 20161 votes

I think its different, at that point they were committed to a full ranked overhaul. Think about how much money and resources were spent making the new champion select and DQ. They were convinced that their million dollar investment was the new future of ranked games, and they werent gonna let a handful of players tell them otherwise.

Think about it are they suddenly gonna scrap a big budget project just because a few players like solo q? NO. There is no way they will change this system and also the designers are convinced they've created the best system NA. A few squabbling voices in the background will not change their minds.

KeevalroyAug 22, 20164 votes

This.

I get that Riot is going at this with good intentions, but when you devs have tried that in the past, you ignored points that criticized or pointed out glaring problems in whatever the topic is as if you were so offended at our resistance that you chose to dismiss the concerns as people being upset because of change alone, or treated it as a "downvote brigade" (no it wasn't) as Pwyff put it when Riot was still willing to talk about DQ.

You already know that we'll never be satisfied unless solo queue comes back, and no, allowing solo for diamond+ isn't going to solve the issue. That should be obvious. Dynamic Queue has ruined ranked, and it's truly baffling that Riot is still fighting tooth and nail to defend the system that broke it and caused much more harm help.

You want to allow premades in ranked? I'll tell you right now it won't work without heavy consequences as we've already seen - you cannot argue that at this point. There is no fair way to allow Dynamic Queue to exist, and the only acceptable solution is to return Solo Queue as was promised at the start of the season. Riot claimed it was coming...better late than never, just make sure you kill DQ before you do though.

Edit: First paragraph looked weird, tried to reword.

redfeenixAug 22, 20163 votes

And why should only Diamond + be solo?

Their reasoning is solo is for more competitive matches. But even at lower elos I wanna play a competitive match. Why should only Diamonds get special treatment and be given solo q? I'd like to see that extend to lower elos as well, I'm sure even bronze players would appreciate a more competitive game.

KeevalroyAug 22, 20166 votes

I'm sure even bronze players would appreciate a more competitive game.

Even without competitiveness, I'm sure they'd also appreciate not being forced to play with and against premades.

DivinemethedAug 22, 20162 votes

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Even without competitiveness, I'm sure they'd also appreciate not being forced to play with and against premades.

This, I am not a great league player Bronze to Silver. However I enjoy playing it after work or on the weekends. That was until it just became A.) premade dives whatever lane is doing good and goes on to stomp your team. Or B.) You get paired with a premade they proceed to work together destroy the enemy team yet you do nothing and only get in the way. Basically you have to group up or you are irrelevant there is no longer the feeling of I did good and contributed to this win or I did bad and was a reason we lost I need to work on this aspect of the game.

DivinemethedAug 22, 20163 votes

We'll talk more when we've done some due diligence, and do it in enough time so you have a chance to respond before the season starts this time,

You pretty much ruined ranked this season to the point where even LCS pros do not play it anymore. Yet you haven't even done your "due diligence" yet on how to fix what YOU broke. You killed wow and now you are killing League LCS viewership down, player base down, and number of people streaming down. You just ruin everything then move on to the next nice thing and fuck that up don't you?

redfeenixAug 22, 20162 votes

You just ruin everything then move on to the next nice thing and fuck that up don't you?

WHoaa

Edge of DaybreakAug 22, 20162 votes

My question is do you actually understand why the players are upset? Tell us what you think some of the things we are upset about are.

Liquid DarioAug 23, 20161 votes

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We haven't gone into depth yet because we don't have a plan solid enough yet to share with you guys. While we try to err on the side of being transparent and try to genrally say things like "this is what we're thinking right now," there is a lot of player scrutiny on the queue design right now and we've made some communication missteps where we thought we were going to. be able to do one thing and ended up having to do another.

We'll talk more when we've done some due diligence, and do it in enough time so you have a chance to respond before the season starts this time,

Well ghostcrawler thank you very much for your time and thank you for your quick response. normally I wait .... FOREVER as in I never get a response. Prolly the first time I have ever had an actual rioter response so I am thankful for that.

I understand completely your response and I will gladly wait and see whats going to happen ... I am glad I got my voice across and at least heard by you though ... this way you get an idea of how a solo Q only player is thinking when hearing about these rumors.

I hope good things come out of this change !!! I am being hopeful.

DivinemethedMay 8, 20181 votes

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We haven't gone into depth yet because we don't have a plan solid enough yet to share with you guys. While we try to err on the side of being transparent and try to genrally say things like "this is what we're thinking right now," there is a lot of player scrutiny on the queue design right now and we've made some communication missteps where we thought we were going to. be able to do one thing and ended up having to do another.

We'll talk more when we've done some due diligence, and do it in enough time so you have a chance to respond before the season starts this time,

@Riot Ghostcrawler Would like a response to this question if possible.

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