Don't take Sion support

S0kaX··2 votes·1,265 views

You have no reason to. Why wait for Sion's stun when you can take Nami Alistar Zac Zilean ? Do you want an ability that slows them from far? Why not Braum instead? or Zac ? or Velkoz ? Do you want an ult that knocks people up? Malphite does it better. And so does Braum to some degree. Do you want a shield that scales with your HP? Nautilus and Malphite have that Do you want to stack with your W? THEN WHY COME SUPPORT IN THE FIRST PLACE? Seriously, you may have fun with this champion, but everything he does there champions that do it far better.

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Tahminatrix 2 votes

Sion is a strong independent undead juggernaut and he does not need to take that hate from you, now I will pick him in every ranked game I play.

S0kaX1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Super Cow Swag,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6pv6uxgr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-08-20T21:04:21.623+0000)

now I will pick him in every ranked game I play.

Enjoy losing bot most of the times your lane won't be camped since all supports are better than him and his passive is useless against an adc with a brain

FullmuteAll play2 votes

Well Zac will be a worse sup than Sion ...

S0kaX1 votes

In what universe? he has 2 stuns pre-6 and his stuns are way easier to land then Sion's. In what way is Zac worse than Sion?

FullmuteAll play3 votes

In our. Sion has harass does Zac have ? Sion has long range stun and much wider zone. Zac has as max medium range root for 0.5 sec. Here range stun is positioned stun without moving close to enemy. Sion stun has lower CD If all-inning Zac loses HP, Sion gets shield. Is it enough ?

S0kaX1 votes

{quoted} In our

First things first, it's "ours"

{quoted} Sion has harass does Zac have ?

Yes, he does have his Q that does not need to screw with minions to deal damage

{quoted} Sion has long range stun

So does Zac.

{quoted} and much wider zone

Only if he ults between people. And Zac's ultimate has the same hitbox, but with a better effect

{quoted} Zac has as max medium range root for 0.5 sec. Here range stun is positioned stun without moving close to enemy.

And as Sion can, he can go all in to stun a lot

{quoted} Sion stun has lower CD

His ult has lower CD than Zac's only from rank 2 onwards His Q may have 3 less seconds on his cooldown, but it is harder to use.

{quoted} If all-inning Zac loses HP, Sion gets shield.

Sion may get a 100-200 shield (if he doesn't max W) but that doesn't make him that tankier than Zac. Also if Zac loses HP he may have a chance to revive, and he also has his passive blobs that regenerate hp. If Sion loses HP, Sion loses HP

{quoted} Is it enough ?

Yes, your useless arguments are enough.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

{quoted}

First things first, it's "ours"

In ours universe? LOL

Now youre just nitpicking because it can be used either way, he could have meant for you to see that as replacing "what" with "our"

S0kaX1 votes

You can ask any english teacher and they would say that my form is correct because it isn't meant to replace the "our" as an adjective.

Tahminatrix 2 votes

In ours universe? Say what you will, that doesn't sound right.

S0kaX1 votes

Do you even english? IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE AN ADJECTIVE! It's meant to be used as a different sentence. Do you even go to school?

Tahminatrix 2 votes

Do you even internet?

In ours universe. :)

S0kaX1 votes

Of course, I'm dealing with a troll. Talking to a loaf of bread would be more useful than this.

FullmuteAll play1 votes

Q that has a range of coming to adc AA and deals way less damage. Zac doesn't have long range stun his Q range is miserable Wtf are you talking about ? ult ? did you even read his abilities ? read about his Q Gl surviving lane phase before you can all-in. Pre 6 his all in is trash, as long as bushes are warded. Zac needs his HP bulbs to gain HP he lost, yeah gl gather all your bulbs during all in, passive is Omega useful against 2 players. Only from rank 2 with only 1 rank being not lower lol. Harder to use is omega argument, get some skill. Not to mention it is not harder lol.

Basically your counterpoints are attempts to cover your fuck up and inability to accept your belief got trashed. Not interested in reading how you keep fcking up and making up stupid contraguments using gramar nazi, word playing and opponent trashing.

S0kaX1 votes

{quoted} Q that has a range of coming to adc AA and deals way less damage.

But it is much easier to land

{quoted} Zac doesn't have long range stun his Q range is miserable

What about his E?

{quoted} Wtf are you talking about ? ult ? did you even read his abilities ? read about his Q

Oh yes, the Q that can only be used from bush or if the enemy is already stunned/rooted/slowed etc

{quoted} Gl surviving lane phase before you can all-in. Pre 6 his all in is trash, as long as bushes are warded.

And how is Sion better than Zac in laning phase? All he can do is use his E and hope to poke the enemy (since all bushes are warded). And btw, you have clearly not played with a Zac support, or a good Zac support. He's basically a second Leona, and last time I checked Leona is a good champion.

{quoted} Zac needs his HP bulbs to gain HP he lost, yeah gl gather all your bulbs during all in, passive is Omega useful against 2 players.

His hp bulb passive are RNG, they could go to the enemy turret or they could go right next to you. Either way, it's better than Sion's.

{quoted} Harder to use is omega argument, get some skill.

Actually it is an argument. There are hard to play champions and easy to play champions. What game are you playing?

{quoted} Basically your counterpoints are attempts to cover your fuck up and inability to accept your belief got trashed.

That's exactly how you bring your arguments

{quoted} Not interested in reading how you keep fcking up and making up stupid contraguments

But you are interested in making stupid arguments.

4G PnutCollida2 votes

{quoted}

But it is much easier to land

What about his E?

Oh yes, the Q that can only be used from bush or if the enemy is already stunned/rooted/slowed etc

And how is Sion better than Zac in laning phase? All he can do is use his E and hope to poke the enemy (since all bushes are warded). And btw, you have clearly not played with a Zac support, or a good Zac support. He's basically a second Leona, and last time I checked Leona is a good champion.

His hp bulb passive are RNG, they could go to the enemy turret or they could go right next to you. Either way, it's better than Sion's.

Actually it is an argument. There are hard to play champions and easy to play champions. What game are you playing?

That's exactly how you bring your arguments

But you are interested in making stupid arguments.

Yo, calm the fuck down. Why are you being such a huge dick? Jesus

  1. Who cares? Do you own this game? NO. So stfu and let me play whatever champ I want to play. If I lose, that’s my fault, but you can’t decide what champions I can play

  2. Who tf plays Zac support... like honestly. And quit hating on Sion, he’s a good support if played right. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean other players can’t play him

S0kaX1 votes

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  1. Who cares? Do you own this game? NO. So stfu and let me play whatever champ I want to play. If I lose, that’s my fault, but you can’t decide what champions I can play

I'm not forcing you to play, I'm simply stating why picking Sion over any other support will put you at a disavantage

[{quoted}](name=4G PnutCollida,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6pv6uxgr,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-20T22:55:00.406+0000) Who tf plays Zac support

I do, and he's amazing with the number of stuns he has.

[{quoted}](name=4G PnutCollida,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6pv6uxgr,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-20T22:55:00.406+0000) Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean other players can’t play him

I don't hate Sion. In fact, he's my favorite toplaner and I have level 6 on him, but when looking at what he can bring as a support , it's not worth it. At all.

undesirable team1 votes

sion is fine supp idk wym

S0kaX1 votes

He may be fine, but he's the least fine from all supports (I don't think that made sense in a grammatical way but I think you get my point)

Elite4Runner1 votes

I think the problem with this is that most players do not enjoy playing support, so they are less comfortable in the role, or with the champions.

There is an argument to be made for having a player who is far more comfortable playing Sion than they are with playing any other conventional support.

Dragon Master1 votes

Swain support is better

S0kaX1 votes

Idk about that, I've only played against ADC APC Swain

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