How do I win games?

Ah 9h 7cch·Dec 21, 2017·1 votes·1,310 views

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DisulfiramDec 21, 20173 votes

Destroy the enemy nexus.

HügöDec 21, 20173 votes

Get first blood -> take first tower -> snowball out of control -> rotate objectives -> easy win.

Ah 9h 7cchDec 22, 20171 votes

That doesn't work.

ElycianDec 21, 20172 votes

Focus on objectives, avoid 50% fights. If your bot lane is feeding rotate and help them getting out of laning phase instead of flaming. Try to find your win condition

Ah 9h 7cchDec 21, 20171 votes

No idea how to do any of that. I thought I did, but I don't. I don't know what win conditions are. Rotating bottom lane doesn't help them in the long run. We always lose because I'm the problem.

NekoniClawsDec 21, 20172 votes

What's your main account? Your match history on this is all ARAM.

If you have a blatant weakness no-one can help with no information.

Ah 9h 7cchDec 22, 20171 votes

I've never played ARAM before. My main account is the same name as this. It's Ah 9h 7cch

NekoniClawsDec 22, 20171 votes

I don't know whose account I must've monkey-clicked on...

OK- IMMEDIATELY apparent, you're playing toplane and you're building lethality pretty religiously. Toplane is suffering a lot recently as for its agency, and tanks are pretty common right now so you might've build lethality in less than optimal games.

But IMO your winrate doesn't look bad.

Ah 9h 7cchDec 22, 20171 votes

How is a 46 percent win rate good?

NekoniClawsDec 22, 20171 votes

I didn't say good, I said -not bad- =) You've lost a few games you shouldn't have, but try not to go into an existential crisis.

Seriously there is a level of finesse in winrates that there shouldn't be. My year review gave me a 48% winrate on Thresh and 56% on Leona. Now lemme say, I play both pretty equally. But they interact with teams in completely different ways. Low elo teams just can't make use of Thresh, and can't provide the space for him to roam that makes him so strong. He can't towerdive as well when his ADC insists on pushing lane out. You could easily be having a problem like this on one of your mains.

But like I said- at a glance, that's a lot of lethality for a 'tank meta'. I don't know your MMR. But if you're low elo- low elo players often mimick the highest-winrate builds from op.gg without taking their context into account, and I would personally look into whether you're falling into that trap.

RenownedWheat42Dec 21, 20171 votes

Find what you're good at and play the fuck out of it.

Ah 9h 7cchDec 21, 20171 votes

Tried. Can't be good. Can't win. The game is becoming less fun because I can't get good at at.

RenownedWheat42Dec 21, 20171 votes

Watch some pro streams, then try every class of champion till something really sticks. I thought I could never get good at the game because I wasn't any good at ADCs or Mages, turns out I can play everything else at a decent enough level to get my shit done.

I'm not amazing by any means but if you want you can add me and I can try and help you with some stuff in a 1v1 on the rift (ward spots, csing, whatever you need).

Ah 9h 7cchDec 21, 20171 votes

Watch some pro streams

Already do that a lot.

try every class of champion till something really sticks.

I've played this game for 4 years now. I've played every champion in the game more than once, excluding Zoe.

turns out I can play everything else at a decent enough level to get my shit done.

Great for you. I'm not you. I've played every role more times than I can count. I'm not good at any of them with any character. Just look at my match history.

I'm not amazing by any means but if you want you can add me and I can try and help you with some stuff in a 1v1 on the rift (ward spots, csing, whatever you need).

I don't know why you would want that. You would be wasting your time. Whatever. If you want to add me, go ahead.

YamiKageeDec 21, 20171 votes

Test out champions. Which ever one you like the most practice on a lot, preferably strong champions.

Then get good at winning your lane, or controlling the jungles early. Learn to shot call on objectives and team fights. Communicate with your teammates, watch the minimap at all times.

By shot call I mean make decisions on when to go for something or back off.

Ah 9h 7cchDec 21, 20171 votes

Test out champions. Which ever one you like the most practice on a lot, preferably strong champions.

I already do that. I've learned that tanks are the best to play top lane but only if you aren't me.

Then get good at winning your lane, or controlling the jungles early. Learn to shot call on objectives and team fights. Communicate with your teammates, watch the minimap at all times.

Can't win lane, even if I know what I should do. Can't control jungle because I need to farm (if I'm jungling) and I will fall behind if I do anything but farm. Any call I make is always a bad one, even when it seems like it shouldn't be. Teammates don't want to work together, they just want to be carried. I spend quite a bit of time looking at the minimap.

By shot call I mean make decisions on when to go for something or back off.

I do that. No matter what, it's always wrong or bad.

For the record, I have played this game for 4 years now.

YamiKageeDec 21, 20171 votes

well then...

Ah 9h 7cchDec 21, 20171 votes

What?

YamiKageeDec 21, 20171 votes

I went through a time like this not to long ago. I had the worst losing streak of my life. It dropped me from gold promos all they way back down to silver 5. All in one solid losing streak. Shit was horrible.

Anyway, I eventually got over it by playing norm games and just trying to relax and de tilt. What happened was I was on a 12 game winstreak. I was playing perfect. Then I got to the gold promos, my goal for the season, only to have the worst teammates imaginable.

After the horrible losses I just started automatically assuming my team would lose no matter what I did. In most of the cases it was true.

After I played some norm games and got my head back in it, I determined I was losing before because I was never the one "carrying" or making the plays. I would always help someone make a play. or get my team ahead far enough to where they would do all the work and I would just farm.

The problem with that was, it was only doable if I had good teammates. Which isn't always the case.

So I changed my strategy to being proactive and calculated. Roaming, getting good trades, using minions taking objectives etc. I never expect anyone on my team to be good ever since that losing streak and it has honestly made me a hell of a lot better player.

So, yeah that's my story, not sure if you can relate to it or not.

Ah 9h 7cchDec 21, 20171 votes

So, yeah that's my story, not sure if you can relate to it or not.

No, I can't relate to becoming a better player. Everything you just said isn't new information to me.

This:

I never expect anyone on my team to be good ever

is something I already feel, but I'm them, too. That's the difference from me to you.

So I changed my strategy to being proactive and calculated.

I tried this. Every time I would try and play proactively, it would always, and I mean always backfire. That led me to believe that it is a bad idea and I shouldn't do it. So I stopped. If it always ends in me or others being set behind, then it doesn't work.

You talk about being tilted. I'm not tilted. I've accepted that I can't be good at this game, but I like the game a lot and won't stop playing it. I will try to become better, but I already know I can't. Hopefully this gives you better insight into my psyche. I only make a big deal out of this because this game is my life, and I want/wanted to be a pro player, but that just won't happen.

Abraxus followerDec 21, 20171 votes

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No, I can't relate to becoming a better player. Everything you just said isn't new information to me.

This:

is something I already feel, but I'm them, too. That's the difference from me to you.

I tried this. Every time I would try and play proactively, it would always, and I mean always backfire. That led me to believe that it is a bad idea and I shouldn't do it. So I stopped. If it always ends in me or others being set behind, then it doesn't work.

You talk about being tilted. I'm not tilted. I've accepted that I can't be good at this game, but I like the game a lot and won't stop playing it. I will try to become better, but I already know I can't. If that gives you some idea into my psyche, maybe you can better understand my situation. I only make a big deal out of this because this game is my life, and I want/wanted to be a pro player, but that just won't happen.

what hes trying to say is solo carry you cant rely on your team, can't expect an lcs team comp without any communication its smart to go that rammus to his yi, enemy jungler picks xin zho rammus enemy jungler goes rammus go elise, just focus on what counters you. If your going jg focus on you different story on bot lane dont go soraka to their draven or xayah you want poke go morg or sona.

YamiKageeDec 21, 20171 votes

Hm. It could be bad vision?

Maybe you don't have the killer instinct to go after a kill? Maybe you have to much of a killer instinct?

Maybe you don't have a strong desire to win. You can't forget the enemy is your enemy and the goal is to destroy them. This happens to me a lot, espically on my smurf when im trying to be nice to noobs.

Maybe your not comfortable pounding the keyboard to get the most out of a combo. Like a try hard. I actually learned to get comfortable doing it after watching shiptur, dude is a try hard for sure.

You want to play a duo?

You might be trolling me, and be an actual god.

Ah 9h 7cchDec 21, 20171 votes

I don't have any idea what the problem is. It's probably everything.