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Nekusen2 votes

you know winrates mean nothing right? look at his pickrate, higher than most

Lord Azır1 votes

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you know winrates mean nothing right? look at his pickrate, higher than most

Yeah people like me who main Azir still play him, his early game is completely gone now. I can still do decently well cause I know my way around him, but anyone new trying him would have an extremely hard time with all these nerfs. You shouldn't have to have 200+ games on a champion to make them even somewhat viable.

Kat Head1 votes

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Yeah people like me who main Azir still play him, his early game is completely gone now. I can still do decently well cause I know my way around him, but anyone new trying him would have an extremely hard time with all these nerfs. You shouldn't have to have 200+ games on a champion to make them even somewhat viable.

He should have never existed, he is the very example of horrible champion design.

That said, (now that he exists) no champion should languish at the bottom for to long.

He should be reworked, there is no way to make him good with his current toxic kit. He is more toxic to play against than Yorick ever was, and Yorick was removed from the free champion rotation and completely forgotten.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

And Zilean is #2 on that list, so let's not focus on average win rates for balancing.

Only Play Darius1 votes

High skill requirement champions like Azir Yasuo Elise LeeSin will never see true balance it seems like. Either they are nerfed so hard that you have to perfectly utilize every single part of their overloaded kit to perform on par with a simple champion like Annie (in which case there isn't a point in picking the harder champion), or they are balanced for the masses but the mains are able to outplay anything that comes there way and there is nothing you can do about it simply because their kit has more tools they can make use of.

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