How is a 5 man pre-made allowed to face a group of randoms?

Ordained Sinner·May 18, 2017·20 votes·5,206 views

This is my first post(technically second I guess). As some one who plays normal draft almost exclusively I am flabbergasted at some of the insane things that are allowed to happen, but above all sins of matchmaking I have seen is allowing a 5 man pre-made that has comms to face off against 3 randoms and a single duo or 5 randoms.

There is zero chance in hell for victory and you might as well agree to open a lane and go grab something to eat while watching Netflix until you can actually PLAY a game of league.

It is not enjoyable for either team(I guess the 5 man if they have low self esteem would enjoy it) and it is degrading to the game and the direction Riot is claiming to be going with it.

Last I played ranked I was Silver II. Not a demi-god of League by any means, but not incompetent either. Since I mostly enjoy normal matches since I have anxiety issues but having encountered this exact scenario several times rather recently is irritating. Unless you have a smurf on your team well above the balanced skill range you are not even going to be able to learn or grow on a champion.

So why is it even allowed to happen? I will gladly wait another minute or two while something reasonable is put together.

Investing a good deal of time lately trying to learn, played since season 5. I am comfortable clicking "Play" now but when I do I question if its going to be worth my 20-70 minutes.

Just make it balanced. I want to face someone slightly better who I can be challenged by, not a team that runs scrims and plays ranked together who is going to eat our team alive simply from the benefit of synergy and comms.

20 Comments

SoberToasterMay 18, 20174 votes

BALDG1VEN BOOMERMay 18, 20172 votes

It's been happening for quite some time now, from my understanding if only matches you against pre made as random if there's no others in queue.

Most people don't really take it serious though since It's "Normals and Chill" whilst most people playing against pre mades can be frustrating most aren't trying as hard and usually their for the fun of the game rather than serious try hard.

CalabokMay 19, 20172 votes

its just normals.

OkamikaziMay 19, 20176 votes

even though its still a very horrible experience when you jus wanna have fun.

CalabokMay 19, 20171 votes

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even though its still a very horrible experience when you jus wanna have fun.

have fun in ranked where it counts.

Skins ProjectMay 19, 20174 votes

Then what is normals for ;-;

CalabokMay 19, 20171 votes

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Then what is normals for ;-;

practicing different champs against non robot champs. That is it.

RewtMay 19, 20172 votes

Its pretty rare. 5 mans 8 times out of 10 put you against another 5 man. The other 1 time its some combination of groups. And on the EXTREMELY rare occasion against a full team of randoms. But i will say this is exceptionally rare

WinnieBlueMay 19, 20171 votes

I'd say it's rarer than the 1/10 for solo players. For a premade 5, yes about every 10 games you will match with a random 5, but for that one solo player you will probably go 50 games in correct matchmaking before eventually by chance end up against a premade 5.

Usually MMR also comes into effect, so the players on the premade should be of a lesser skill than the solo's on the opposing side.

I also play almost exclusively normal blind in both OCE and NA (draft is not available in OCE unless ranked. Ping too high on NA for ranked) and cannot ever recall this being an issue. At times we've beaten the premades, probably making my win ratio 50/50, as it should be.

TheSingularityMay 19, 20172 votes

In my experience my mates and I go against a 4 anda 1 most of the time. Personally I feel sorry for that one person.

Only Play DariusMay 19, 20172 votes

Because it's a normal draft. You're supposed to play the mode casually and not take it too seriously, that's what ranked is for.

Project XeroMay 19, 20173 votes

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Because it's a normal draft. You're supposed to play the mode casually and not take it too seriously, that's what ranked is for.

yeah but ranked is such a toxic stew pot that it makes you wonder if it's even worth it.

starfish sparksMay 19, 20171 votes

just play ranked instead, why do u even bother with normals? normals is only to learn the basics. and if you loose in ranked, so what? its only a game but at least u get some action, and there is no 5xpremade in the solo/duo ranked, only in flex if you choose it.

Pater GascoigneMay 19, 20174 votes

Some people dont want to deal with the stress and toxicity that comes with ranked. And I agree, it's just a game, dont take it so serious.

JaxMoonStealerMay 19, 20171 votes

The stress is mostly up to you. Toxicity can be dealt with by muting.

Tobias BracknerMay 19, 20171 votes

There isn't a "0 chance in hell"

If you care so much about your odds of winning then play ranked.

What you met is an extremely rare occurrence. If you are worried about if you will encounter it when you play the answer is "no"

KharryMar 15, 20181 votes

BS to extremely rare occurrence I've at times met with a 5 man premade in draft 2 times in a row and it was the same team in both instances. SO don't go shoving the bullshit that its an extremely rare occurrence when its flipping well common AF. It made me so depress cause I couldn't play / learn my champ / improve on mechanics / macroplay cause all my camps (I'm jungler) were being taken and enemy team with voice comms meant I couldn't get advantage over what would normally be a team of randoms.

130xFeb 20, 20181 votes

I just was placed against a 5 man tonight. 0 fun. I am close to quitting as it is and to not have this bs cjecked at the door is a joke. ANY GAME this would be cheating and lol is no exception. Riot needs to ban themselves for exploiting matchmaking. It is as plain as day so I assume they just dont give a flying frick.