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Luden's Echo on Malzahar

Verandure·3/15/2015, 6:42:09 AM·2 votes·4,810 views

Just finished testing Luden's Echo on Malzahar and found a few things out that you guys might find interesting.

(Each spellcast grants 20 charges)

  • Luden's Echo can proc on any individual tick of Null Zone or Malefic Visions, not only the initial cast
  • Malefic Visions bouncing to a new target does not grant any charges
  • Luden's Echo will proc on damage dealt by Malefic Visions regardless of Malzahar's distance from the afflicted target
  • Voidlings cannot proc the effect of Luden's Echo with auto attacks
  • (Unable to confirm) When two instances of Malefic Visions are active, Luden's Echo procs based on the more recent refresh

What do you guys think of Luden's Echo on Malzahar?

Unfortunately, the way Luden's Echo works, Malzahar can't double proc during his normal rotation (Q > W > E > R) due to both the rapidity of his burst rotation and the lack of mobility for its duration. During teamfights; however, Malzahar should be able to proc the effect multiple times with basic abilities before and after the use of Nether Grasp.

The movespeed is welcomed on somebody as immobile as Malzahar, but +7% ms (23.8 before boots, 25.55 at tier one, 26.95 at tier two, and 28.35 with alacrity) isn't going to help you win very many races.

I also found that Malzahar's attack animation made orb walking to generate charges very slow. Anecdotally; I found that running around without attacking (unless a minion wasn't going to bounce Malefic Visions or was about to die -- gotta get that CS) was more effective use of the item.

I haven't tried Luden's Echo on Malzahar in a PvP game, yet. All of my findings are from 1v1 custom against a bot. If you have any thoughts or suggestions, please share.

3 Comments

Zair Umbras3/15/2015, 6:56:52 AM3 votes

Luden's Echo is weird in the way it works. It will PROC off of ANY spell damage whether it be a DoT or an actual spell being used, HOWEVER... Luden's Echo does not gain stacks when damage is dealt, it gains stacks when abilities are CASTED. Considering how long Malz's CD's are, he can't really put the item to as much use as many since he can't spam the abilities to keep it up constantly. It could work, but Malz doesn't scale properly with it.

XianShetsu3/19/2015, 9:44:38 AM1 votes

I run a Teleport/Flash Malzahar and I usually rush Luden's Echo (I replaced Sorc Shoes in my build with this) after getting tear & a pink ward.

In short, It is "Amazing"

Malzahar's greatest strength early game is pushing and this item only increases that strength tremendously, especially when you go against a roaming opponent. The moment you see them leave the lane, you just have to push (Made easier by Luden's Echo), take the tower and when you force the other laner to back to base, you can just travel to another lane and push for them as well ;p