Is Vladimir Jungle at all viable?

Onwodori··1 votes·5,092 views

Hey there, Onwodori here.

Yadayada, finding new things to jungle with, yadayada reasons I am looking at it.

Can the vampire run around the jungle? I get that he's a farm dependent champion, but I take lots of those champions into the jungle and, surprisingly enough, they get strong and fed as they would in top. Singed and GP I can do this with 80% of the time -- the other times they are a little weaker than what they'd be in top lane, but a few successful ganks fixes that and the income is more reliable. For Vlad, as far as I understand, he becomes nearly unkillable after boots and an ancient tomb which rings up a minimal 3100 gold. That's not much at all.

So I imagine core for him would be:

item 1401 item 3158 item 3152 then start the long process of farming EVERYTHING for big items like item 3089 item 3116 item 3157

Let me know if this has been attempted at all. Sounds fun and might have a bonus edge to top lane Vlad due to the weird Cinderhulk bonus HP part and Vlad's passive.

Thanks and why do Vampires hate the beach?

-Onwodori

(Answer: because they burst into flames on contact with sunlight. Duh. Trundle )

11 Comments

Bemapon1 votes

item 1401 doesnt increase from the hp he gets from his passive...

Onwodori1 votes

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item 1401 doesnt increase from the hp he gets from his passive...

Ah. I am reading much of that now that I went to search for it. OK, well Runic Echoes sounds like it would also be good on him, though the mana refund would be a sad waste. Others, lots of movement speed, AP and extra burst sounds great.

Onwodori1 votes

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Ah. I am reading much of that now that I went to search for it. OK, well Runic Echoes sounds like it would also be good on him, though the mana refund would be a sad waste. Others, lots of movement speed, AP and extra burst sounds great.

And you build HP on him anyways through items like RcS.

Bemapon2 votes

I tried jungle vlad twice... it went terribly both times. He does not have the clear speed and early his q is on too long of a cd to sustain.

But if you still wish to try it anyway, I would be curious to know how it works for you.

Dreadlocks1 votes

This^ his clear time is absolutely horrendous.

Onwodori1 votes

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I tried jungle vlad twice... it went terribly both times. He does not have the clear speed and early his q is on too long of a cd to sustain.

But if you still wish to try it anyway, I would be curious to know how it works for you.

With the change to jungle items, you might be more in luck. item 1039 is a godsend for AOE mages -- It makes my Jungle Singed viable and deliciously fun. But SHHHH it's mine don't tell anyone ;O) (Try Rumble Jungle -- works just as well.)

3TWarrior1 votes

it doesn't, but as with all hp he gains, it will increase his AP by that 15% of X% of his health

Onwodori1 votes

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item 1401 doesnt increase from the hp he gets from his passive...

While stated that the bonuses do not stack with themselves, that is not entirely true. When the bonus AP granted by Crimson Pact interacts with ability power modifiers, such as Rabadon's Deathcap item.png Rabadon's Deathcap or Archmage mastery s4.png Archmage, the bonus AP gained from those modifiers triggers more health from Crimson Pact. This creates a cyclic loop. The same is also true for health modifiers, such as Juggernaut mastery s4.png Juggernaut and Juggernaut item.png Cinderhulk.

The Poetic Zed1 votes

The problem with that is conventional junglers have one or two things:

Burst Crowd Control.

They either do the damage, or lock the target down for their teammate(s) to do the damage. Unfortunately, Vladimir has neither at low levels. His clear isn't that great until later levels, when he becomes much stronger. Could you do it? yeah, probably. It just wouldn't be very effective, and there are champs better suited to it.

Troy2426211 votes

Eh. Question is WHY jungle him? I mean, he's safe in lane, but in the jungle,....His ganks would be awful.

Don't get me wrong, I hope someone comes in and can prove me wrong. I want to be able to jungle Vladimir, or even Aatrox for that matter.

Talll1 votes

no his ganks would foce him to w to slow the target which means he now has no escape, plus his sustain is shit until he can get some form of spell vamp item

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