[Discussion]: Aftershock Changes

Agent Corgi·Apr 5, 2019·1 votes·2,517 views

Riot Games outlines possible changes for Aftershock rune | Dot Esports

So it seems we have some changes being talked about regarding Aftershock. According to the article & a tweet from Riot Repertoir, Aftershock is going to make it so you have to build defensive items to get the most out of it.

Instead of giving the user 70-150 Armor & Magic Resist (scaling with level), Aftershock users gain 70 Armor & Magic Resist plus 50% of their bonus Armor/Magic Resist (Maximum Armor/Magic Resist gain is capped between 80 - 150). It also now deals 10 - 120 (+5% Max HP) Magic damage, removing the AD & AP Ratios.

What do you guys think?

7 Comments

Done25Apr 5, 20193 votes

I'm honestly not looking forward to it tbh. Aftershock shouldn't just be for tanks. It should be for anyone who wants to initiate and not immediately get blown up by x5 rotations. They just needed to lower the initial values such that people like Liss don't get a free pass in lane.

Iota ThetaApr 5, 20191 votes

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I'm honestly not looking forward to it tbh. Aftershock shouldn't just be for tanks. It should be for anyone who wants to initiate and not immediately get blown up by x5 rotations. They just needed to lower the initial values such that people like Liss don't get a free pass in lane.

Except Aftershock was designed originally for tanks and defense stackers, replacing old Courage of the Colossus.

However, non-tanks that currently use it well will still use the defense boost well. They just won’t get up to 120 or 150 bonus resists. 70 is still a lot early on, as only two regular tank items have more armor than it ( item 3110 item 3075 , special cases are item 3373 item 3387 ).

TobykachuApr 5, 20192 votes

100% needed. There is absolutely no justification for squishy champions gaining the ability to become almost completely unkillable just from proccing this rune. Lissandra, Sylas and Fiddlesticks are the most notable examples of this and facing them with this rune specifically leads to an incredibly frustrating experience. It does make me question the Lissandra nerfs last patch if they were still willing to address Aftershock in the next patch anyway.

Iota ThetaApr 5, 20191 votes

So...a mix of what it used to be and what it is now? Some buffed up scaling compared to originally, and a decent base stat value as well? It can work. We’ll see. The cap will help prevent situations with things like Malphite’s passive, Taric’s passive, Rammus’s passive and W, and Leona’s W.

RagnaveilApr 5, 20191 votes

Issue I have with this, is the base defense stats are still high. I'd rather have a lower defense stat base and better scaling. I feel like it should also last longer at the cost of some power. It lasts what, 2.5 seconds? Just thinking...I just thought about a better idea, and it involves Courage. What if for every champ you stun after the first in the next 3 seconds gives you lets say for now, 15 base armor and mr per champ and it has a scaling of 75% (unaffected per stack). The tank class should get the most out of it since they are the ones holding the most cc in champ kits.

LuCilL3Apr 14, 20191 votes

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Issue I have with this, is the base defense stats are still high. I'd rather have a lower defense stat base and better scaling. I feel like it should also last longer at the cost of some power. It lasts what, 2.5 seconds? Just thinking...I just thought about a better idea, and it involves Courage. What if for every champ you stun after the first in the next 3 seconds gives you lets say for now, 15 base armor and mr per champ and it has a scaling of 75% (unaffected per stack). The tank class should get the most out of it since they are the ones holding the most cc in champ kits.

the problem with lowering the base stats would be making champions like thresh,alistar blitz and more worthless, since riot gave champs like lulu and janna the ability to remove half your health bar with 1 spell and 2 autos, aftershock base stat nerfs would make the lane phase of enchanters a free lane and they would just destroy hard engage while outscaling and countering it lalter on.