What does Ashe do against morgana?

Muted Summoner··2 votes·571 views

A morg mid or top is very strong. Ashe can't crit her so her damage output is greatly decreased while most adcs would blow up morgana if morgana doesn't land the huge hit box Q. Support wise she can handle her because morg won't have much damage but geez..any tips? Is it just pray your ap laners burst that shield quick enough?

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Luner Hunter1 votes

morg mid and top is quite weak specially since everyone keeps whining about her and rito keeps nerfing her, but lets imagine in your world she's strong, SHE IS THE ANTI MAGE mage... ya know... like viegar use to be... but more reliable even back before viegars "compensation" so she has the tools to kill mages but rito keeps pushing her towards the support role... ya know like they did with the 27 back to back sona nerfs + sona's "rework" nerf-gutting cuz sona use to SOMETIMES go mid...

MOVING ON

it's not like her E will be up EVERYTIME you (ashe) get near her and if it's up when you run into her it only last around 4 seconds/till busted and has a massive 12 second CD, during those 12 seconds if you/your team cant kill her its because you're/your team is bad not because she's op

everyone bitches about Morgana's REAL spell shield, ya know a shield that prevents spells and their attached CC's as well as magic damage, not just something that absorbs a single ability (like sivir)

now onto this

Ashe can't crit her so her damage output is greatly decreased while most adcs would blow up morgana if morgana doesn't land the huge hit box Q.

lets take this apart

  1. Ashe's attack speed will allow you to chew through her hp
  2. Ashe's basic attack damage will be quite high without her "crits" so point 1 + point 2 = point 3
  3. Ashe's basic attack damage times her attack speed should be enough damage to kill a morgana quite quickly even if her E is up
  4. Morgana's Q isn't her only defense aside from E to keep Morgana from dieing to an ADC her EVER PRESENT R + item 3157
  5. Last but not least and certainty more important than the last 4 points.... Why the hell are you trying to 1v1 a BURST MAGE as the adc?

Now if you believe an ADC should be able to 1v1 a BURST MAGE you have issues other than Morgana's E ...

Muted Summoner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luner Hunter,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6GhrsyiF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-05-28T19:12:47.441+0000)

morg mid and top is quite weak specially since everyone keeps whining about her and rito keeps nerfing her, but lets imagine in your world she's strong, SHE IS THE ANTI MAGE mage... ya know... like viegar use to be... but more reliable even back before viegars "compensation" so she has the tools to kill mages but rito keeps pushing her towards the support role... ya know like they did with the 27 back to back sona nerfs + sona's "rework" nerf-gutting cuz sona use to SOMETIMES go mid...

MOVING ON

it's not like her E will be up EVERYTIME you (ashe) get near her and if it's up when you run into her it only last around 4 seconds/till busted and has a massive 12 second CD, during those 12 seconds if you/your team cant kill her its because you're/your team is bad not because she's op

everyone bitches about Morgana's REAL spell shield, ya know a shield that prevents spells and their attached CC's as well as magic damage, not just something that absorbs a single ability (like sivir)

now onto this

lets take this apart

  1. Ashe's attack speed will allow you to chew through her hp

  2. Ashe's basic attack damage will be quite high without her "crits" so point 1 + point 2 = point 3

  3. Ashe's basic attack damage times her attack speed should be enough damage to kill a morgana quite quickly even if her E is up

  4. Morgana's Q isn't her only defense aside from E to keep Morgana from dieing to an ADC her EVER PRESENT R + item 3157

  5. Last but not least and certainty more important than the last 4 points.... Why the hell are you trying to 1v1 a BURST MAGE as the adc?

Now if you believe an ADC should be able to 1v1 a BURST MAGE you have issues other than Morgana's E ...

I haven't played as an Ashe, just from the game I've played with morgana or seen several they just dominate Ashe so easily while ADCs like jinx and graves just blow up morgana even if she has her ulty zhonya.

Morg mid and top is not weak(just my opinion). Yeah shes been getting nerfs and despite that she is still a strong pick. She doesn't get picked top or mid for no reason in lcs. IM not saying nerf Morgana im just saying Ashe has a incredibly hard nerf and I'd like tips for Ashe to deal with a Morgana. If I do play Ashe which i haven't even tried her or if I see someone play Ashe.

IM just asking for tips and advice, Im not crying nerf Morgana or anything. Please calm your self a bit. I have been considering playing an Ashe but before I do and if I do. I'd like to know how to deal with a Morgana or give tips against ppl in games against a Morgana.

I played Ashe quite a bit before rework but haven't touched her yet as Im trying to see how well she is before I Start using her.

Luner Hunter1 votes

Morg mid and top is not weak. Yeah shes been getting nerfs and despite that she is still a strong pick. She doesn't get picked top or mid for no reason in lcs.

She's not picked because she has high burst potential (see Q dmg nerf, W dmg nerf, R dmg nerf) she's picked because of her Q's root, her E, and her R's stun - CC/Anti-CC

IM just asking for tips and advice, Im not crying nerf Morgana or anything. Please calm your self a bit.

These kinds of threads spawn the "nerf X" threads and people jump on the bandwagon without thinking

Muted Summoner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luner Hunter,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6GhrsyiF,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-05-28T19:40:34.279+0000)

She's not picked because she has high burst potential (see Q dmg nerf, W dmg nerf, R dmg nerf) she's picked because of her Q's root, her E, and her R's stun - CC/Anti-CC

These kinds of threads spawn the "nerf X" threads and people jump on the bandwagon without thinking

Morgana doesn't need any more nerfs, especially not because of Ashe can't crit. That was never this threads goal.

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