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Anyone else felt we were over hyped for Ornn?

WarWork··7 votes·606 views

Idk I just felt a lot of high expectations were set and he came out feeling so weak and probably even nerfed before his release. I remember in the champ road map that was teasing Ornn (http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/07/champion-roadmap-july-2017/) ; they said "One of the key traits of a Vanguard is that they can choose when and where to start a fight. With that in mind, we wanted to make a new playmaking Vanguard that charged headfirst into tough situations and made the enemy team fight on their terms. We also really wanted to make a very self-reliant champion; " and that, . . . . that's not Ornn. His scalings are all over the place and it feels weird Q is from 100%ad W is his max health for the shield only e is armor and mr and r is AP like wut? Speaking about his skills. I love his passive its unique but it's a low tier bait and i don't think anyone actually uses the HUD.

His q lol I'll save that for last.

His w i really like no complaints with it or brittle.

His e is interesting and fun to try to use correctly for the knock up.

HIs ult feels like they came up with it right after Maokai's. Its a realy cool and definately unique but really telegraphed.

His q feels like hot garbage. I dont see the point the purpose of the pillar I assume would be for the E QThe delay is soooooo long i dont think the pillar is even worth having. The pillar could honestly be removed and i dont think it would change how this ability feels. If I do land the E Q combo i don't fel skilled, i feell like my enemies just weren't good or not trying. The pillar does nothing on its own and you can't even control where it's placed (its a fixed distance). At least have it do damage when it appears by an eruption or smn. It's sad that the troll king makes better pillars that the Demi-God of forging. Maybe if Trundle made the door Braum would be walking around without a shield.

21 Comments

Mens Hair Club3 votes

I remember being right and down voted for it

tank who only offers oodles of CC with some silly gimmick tacked on

this is the atrocious new direction riot is taking with their game

Oleandervine1 votes

Well, hopefully the patch will fix him, but at live values and such, he can't even tank properly because his CC is completely unreliable. Why would you take a tank like him over someone like Maokai or Nautilus?

Mens Hair Club3 votes

naut is trash

but that's the real question isn't it. when tanks are only valuable for CC why would you pick anything besides the best and most reliable CC

Jorencice1 votes

Umm how else would a tank be valuable?

If you do damage you aren't a tank...

Mens Hair Club1 votes

guess Amumu sion rammus and malphite aren't tanks then

tanks can provide value without the CC the same way that they always have until this year's shitty resorts; doing other things.

Jorencice1 votes

Da fuck? All 4 of them are used for their CC...

Mens Hair Club1 votes

yeah, amumus passive, rammus's armor scaling, malphite AS crippling have nothing to do with why you might pick them

Jorencice1 votes

Your right. They don't.

Glad we are both in agreement now.

Also armor scaling as a reason to pick... seriously?

Ornns has max health damage and armor scaling AND health scaling AND MR scaling.

Read it and weep rammus.

LordGeovanni1 votes

if you cant do damage you arent a threat support tank any champion. the bs about adcs crying that tanks do too much damage is bs you pick a class that builds no defenses but is hard to catch get caught but you dont think you should take damage.

Jorencice1 votes

Sooo... all tanks should be unkillable and have assassins level mobility.

...got...it...

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I feel like he is the squishiest tank.

WarWork1 votes

i tink they said they released him with low stats so probably , sad that this vanuard works better as a support

Kaìju1 votes

He doesn't. His support is even worse than too. Ornn support has like a 15% winrate.

Nahui1 votes

I like him. No damage, as a tank should be, high tankiness further made better by upgraded items, and has great cc. His ult is telegraphed sure, but there honestly isn't much you can do about it. The sheep running in can easily be dodged, but when he knocks it, it's not so easy. If anything it scatters and disorganizes a team. So you do fight on his terms. It's one of those ults that makes your team make a decision: Stay, fight and get CC'd, or run/scatter and risk bad positioning.

Oleandervine1 votes

You clearly didn't read yesterday's PBE notes.

Volcanic Rupture (Q) Pillar spawn lowered from 1.25 seconds to 1.125 seconds "has a small push on it when it spawns"

Bellows Breath (W) "W length and width inc by 50" "W also sets your speed from 35% to 50%"

Searing Charge (E) No longer knocks back on charge through.

Call of the Forge God (R) Ram max speed increased from 1050 to 1200

WarWork1 votes

The post is more talkin about the original release and whethr he was over hyped for it. But no I didn't see them.

Grizzlpaw1 votes

He's pretty weak right now but at least he's fun.

crzymdscntst1 votes

The biggest problem with Ornn I think is that he works best with more tanks on his team. A tank that helps the role he is already filling?

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

With that in mind, we wanted to make a new playmaking Vanguard that charged headfirst into tough situations and made the enemy team fight on their terms

Wait, so basically Ornn was supposed to punish enemies for playing correctly and forcing him into a bad spot? What?

Enjutsu1 votes

That's because you were expecting a broken OP champion, sure Riot did release those kinds of champions like 2 years ago, but not anymore, Camile was the only last release that was broken OP on release and needed multiple nerf patches to become normal.

WarWork1 votes

No, that's not the case i had no problem with Ivern and h came out weak. Riot built up Ornn a lot if you followed the boards. THey saying basically he was the star vanguard basicaly, that he chooses when fights start, they so excitd for him, and he came out weak.

Kayne wasnt op and i love Kayne h is what they said he would be.

Infact Ornn is just plain weak he had to be hot fixed his first week out, he has bug fixes, his items geting a time limit before they can be purchased because they bait bad builds, and the first patch after release he has changes to all of his abilities.

But tl dr. Its not about whether he's broken or not, he is just simply not the champ riot teased.

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