Newest Nasus Stack Buff is too OP

imortalone··9 votes·2,811 views

He was already one of the best top characters before his never ending stack buff... Before the buff you could fight him with Chogath or whoever on an equal level... Now Nasus gets like 500 stacks and 1 hits any adc doesn't matter if they have guardian angel or not. What kind of bs is that... Other then the way too over powered recent nasus buff... Good updates and blood skins.. Maybe give nasus and chogath blood skins too

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Alzon4 votes

The buff is basically an extra 4 stacks per minute. That’s 80 more damage per Q at 20 minutes. While that is a pretty hefty buff, it’s hardly game-breaking.

imortalone2 votes

it is totally game breaking. 1 hour long game there isn't any stopping him.. Put him with a yi and gg. 2v5 easy. Cho's stacks get limited on his growth that really only matches up with Nas's ult... Isn't fair anymore.. Compare nas with gnar and there isn't any chance for little gnar to win..

Alzon3 votes

I haven’t played an hour-long game in a very, very long time... 95% of games end before 35 min, which has historically been regarded as when “late game” truly starts, as people who aren’t fed start finishing builds.

Poske1 votes

Nasus sucks lategame tho

5050BS1 votes

The issue is that it is exponential. Yes at 20m its 80 damage but at 30m its 200 damage.

Imagine Viegar getting a buff like this (actually he should if it was needed on Nas its needed on Viegar)

Doge20201 votes

Well with Veigar he can stack way easier because his form of stacking is way more broad. He just has to last hit with q (which can hit two targets) or land an ability on an enemy champ. Idk if his stun cage counts towards the stacks tho. Veigar does have a few similar problems with nasus, but veig is ranged, has a very long teamfighting CC ability, and is overall better with fighting one or more people, no matter if they are ranged or not.

Nasus can’t usually buy full offensive items to boost the damage of his q because he is melee and will pop extremely quick, Veigar can do it because he is ranged and doesn’t need the survivablity as much to do his job.

Phieldworker2 votes

How often are you getting stuck in hour long games though. Most games are closing between 25 min and elder dragon spawn. I will admit that nasus becomes stronger earlier but that didn’t hide away his weaknesses.

Doge20201 votes

Try to one shot an enemy adc as nasus when the entire team is also there. Nasus will get CC’d so much that he can’t do anything and will die before he can get a single Q on the adc. Yes, Nasus is a very good skirmisher in a splitpush scenario but he is trash tier when fighting more than one enemy while getting kited.

The buff did nothing to help nasus, it didn’t affect or help any of his main problems.

And BTW if you are letting a nasus stack up to 500 stacks at the 20 or 30 min mark then you are simply bad and don’t know how to play against him. You have to deny him stacks (and more importantly cannon minion stacks) to slow down his scaling. you have to take advantage of his very clear early game weakness to snowball your lane and your other lanes to win the game.

TriviumBG1 votes

So you need all your CC for a single TANK and the 4 other champs in the enemy team will easily be able to destroy your team... You do realise the meta is to NOT FOCUS TANKS and Nasus is a tank... But not your ordinary tank... A tank that 30 minutes into the game does 1000 per 2 seconds (with TF easily his AA adds to that) with a point and click Q and constantly slows with a point and click and heals 500 hp per AA/Q. I started banning him as when he is jungle he scales way faster than 80 per Q and 20 minutes.

All other tanks in the game don't require so much CC just to prevent them from dealing damage.

Doge20201 votes

Change “tank” to “juggernaut” and we might be able to talk more on this.

Nasus is a juggernaut, his entire premise is that if he reaches you he will deal a shit ton of damage.

But he has a shit ton of weaknesses that makes it really easy for people to beat him.

boricCentaur11 votes

Have the adcs tried not standing still I have found that to work. Also how do you not beat nasus as cho like nasus can't lane vs him and later into the game cho is a better team fighter then him too like yeah you're not going to 1v1 nasus late as cho that is the nature of the match up there is nothing wrong with that.

Illabethe1 votes

lol What? Do you even know what Wither does? Adcs might as well be standing still after being on clicked by it. Don't know too many adcs who have ways to get out of Wither..... A 90% Slow.... with a 5 sec duration/ 6 second cooldown....

Doge20202 votes

Tip from a nasus main, group with many people when going to face a fed nasus. That way wither’s effectiveness is lost. Nasus can’t reach the withered adc if the supp leona drops her full combo, and right after the mid laner uses their cc too.

And btw there are many ways that adc’s can do to outplay the use of wither when in a 1v1 against nasus. Ashe’s entire kit helps her kit a nasus, use R to stun the nasus, use W right when the stun finishes to slow him, AA if he gets too close to slow him, use w when it is off CD and no slows are on the nasus, use the cutlass active if needed, use flash and/or heal if necessary.

Illabethe1 votes
  1. I don't need advice.

  2. Your advice you just gave is horrible, dependent on the participants:

a) Nasus can reliably take out 1-2-3 targets of 5 when teams gank him, when played correctly. He can get some 68% Tenacity, so CC becomes neglible. Most people also don't build grievous wounds, so he usually takes too long to kill. Most people who gang also usually don't have Armor Penetration. I know your Leona doesn't. Meanwhile, Nasus has 24-36% Life steal at that point, + item 3065 , and does 1200 damage hits. He also shreds armor, and has attack spam on Ult.

Unless you have 6-8 CC, this is horrible advice, and is going to usually lead to a trade of 3 deaths for one kill, potentially a turret save (or loss, depending on how the Nasus played)

b) If you are grouping to kill a Nasus, you are doing NOTHING to prevent his team from acting. So, you may save a top turret, but both/mid/jung push your bot/mid and take an Inhibitor by the time you're done. That's what happens at high elo.

The REAL way to fight Nasus is to essentially have one mage and one OP fighter assigned to it, like MasterYi (Who cannot be slowed) and Zyra who can supplement from a range, offers plants who all have independent attack speeds, and can peel for the fighter if the fight gets testy.

This leaves 3 of your teammates to cover other lanes/objectives. Even then, they risk a 3v4, which isn't great unless you are very far ahead. But it's better than 5v1ing Nasus with champs who can't handle it, and leaving the rest of the map to 0v5.

  1. If Nasus has landed a Wither, Ashe's R only lasts 1.5 seconds, pre Tenacity. He blows her up when it's over. She can't orb him, and WIther lessens attack speed. She has to attack him about 10 times. He has to hit her 1-2 times. He has time to do it, and she can't run faster than he can slow. You need to consider, a good Nasus has item 3078 item 3065 item 3075 item 3111 item 3053 ...... all of which counter such a tactic.
boricCentaur11 votes

Do you understand what wither does it is a 90% for 1 sec at the END of the duration. You want to know what all adcs can do vs it auto move that is it nasus does not have a good enough ms to get close and adcs like cait can auto before he gets in range to use it and almost every adcs can build bork stop nasus from getting close to them and a lot of adcs have a dash or cc like there nothing nasus can do vs a lucian with a bork other then just flash q and 90% of the time there are other champions like the support that can just cc nasus to stop him.

Illabethe1 votes

It's 47-95%. The By 2 seconds of 5, he has slowed Ashe more than she has slowed him.

Your other points are really Weak. I've seen a Nasus literally chase down a Vayne and Ezreal with Iceborne. 1 dash kits do not offer enough distance to avoid Wither #2. If an adc gets near Nasus without a peeling ally, they are dead. Period.

boricCentaur11 votes

o you actually do not know how it works so let me explain how it works the 47-95% is the MAX SLOW it starts at 35% the slow increases every second for its duration meaning with one point it slows for 35% at the start then goes up by 3% per second adding up to a 47% slow by 5 seconds and at max it starts at 35 then goes up by 15% per second adding up to a 95% slow by 5 seconds if you have questions about it pls asked. Also ashes w slow is around 48 to 54% by the time she will fight nasus but if she autos the slow then without crit is 24 to 27% but with her autos will slow for 48 to 54% so your right on that one.

The vayne and ezreal were bad at kiting like you do not need to avoid wither it is not that good vs a adc it does almost nothing to stop kiting the slow is not strong enough for it like that is not my opinion that is a fact of the game.

TriviumBG1 votes

Your tips still suck because ADC don't build tenacity by default and Nasus does! Nasus will be slowed LESS and for LESS duration... Nasus builds CDR and ADC don't so basically he will constantly use 24/7 Wither when the adc R will be on CDR and Nasus can 1v1 adc without his R. He just needs to use 1 or 2 wither and 1-2 Q. The healing he receives from Q is too much and Q shouldn't work on towers...

The best way to counter Nasus is a long range heavy poke mage like Brand/Vel'Koz and I say this from big experience destroying Nasus with them AS SUPPORT! Liandry, Rylai and the anti healing item :D. You don't have to kill him. Just one rotation of spells to soften him up to 50% and make his healing 40-50% less effective. Since he doesn't have dash and you land aoe it's super easy to poke him.

Jenivie1 votes

nasus always been aids, i think the q buff is fine but that fucking 99% slow needs to go......by the time the duration ends its off cd, pretty fucking annoying.

Glîtchy1 votes

ok I'm sorry but I laughed when I read the title, Nasus? too strong? that is a sentence that hasn't existed since like S1 or beta

all you need to do is play as: Darius Teemo Jax Trundle

and you win

TriviumBG1 votes

I laught at your suggestions. Nasus has a shit ton of healing so he can outsustain the champs you mentioned. Counters their mobility/attack speed/damage pretty well. The OP part about Nasus is his Q works on towers when it shouldn't and his Q HEALS HIM...

Nasus gets so strong that at just 100 stacks at 7 minutes he already outtrades most melee champs... The 1v1 or 1v2 is shit as even earlygame he outdamages and outsustains now - as it was before the buff.

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