New Items Only Encourage Vayne

Nick Valentine·8/23/2015, 5:39:14 PM·7 votes·531 views

I do not think Vayne is overpowered by any means. But I do not like the lack of diversity in the marksman role. I thought the new item changes would help bring diversity. I was very wrong.

Two new hydras and an assortment of other items which all grant health was introduced. Brusiers like Trundle and Talon are stronger now because they deal the same damage but are much tankier. Armor items throughout the game was nerfed, but base armors were increased as compensation. A new rework has introduced 10% critical chance reduction.

Critical Chance reduction greatly harms auto attacking adcs like Ashe Caitlyn

Armor item nerfs hurt KogMaw Corki who excel at bypassing armor

Base armor increases hurt the early laning power of MissFortune Graves who now has to deal with the Leona with additional base armor

Yet a massive increase in flat health and dps bruisers only encourages utility based hypercarries like Vayne who can kite effectively and deal scaling damage.

Why. Why did this happen.

BONUS: Kalista is also a lot stronger now but she's had a fair share of unhealthy playstyles when she was in favor

6 Comments

BlackEyesBlue8/23/2015, 6:08:55 PM2 votes

I mentioned something like this in a previous conversation.

The real reason Vayne is everywhere right now is that tanky bruisers are everywhere right now! Other ADC's can tear down squishier targets faster, but fall flat in the face of a fed tank. I've had SEVERAL games lately end with one team of 3-4 tanks just bowling over our defensive line and there was nothing we could do! the base towers don't scare them at all! They tend to have a lot of CC, and some of them rival ADC's for damage! Having Vayne in play discourages multiple tanks from staying in a group, and gives you a chance if the try the above mentioned strategy.

Like you pointed out, all of these new bruiser items, and re-worked tanky brawlers just push her power up by proxy.

Vayne "I'm not the hero league deserves, I'm the hero it needs." :P

Rito Staff8/23/2015, 6:28:04 PM1 votes

ADC items rework incoming

Troy2426218/23/2015, 6:33:08 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cinderella Eyes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=63nYYWHY,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-23T17:39:14.443+0000) Brusiers like Trundle and Talon are stronger now because they deal the same damage but are much tankier. Armor items throughout the game was nerfed, but base armors were increased as compensation. A new rework has introduced 10% critical chance reduction.

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[{quoted}](name=Cinderella Eyes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=63nYYWHY,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-23T17:39:14.443+0000) Brusiers like Trundle and Talon are stronger now because they deal the same damage but are much tankier.

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[{quoted}](name=Cinderella Eyes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=63nYYWHY,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-23T17:39:14.443+0000) Brusiers like Trundle and Talon tankier

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[{quoted}](name=Cinderella Eyes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=63nYYWHY,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-23T17:39:14.443+0000) Brusiers like Talon tankier

No.

pripustas8/24/2015, 3:33:57 PM1 votes

Talon is a bruiser? Shit, I was playing him wrong all this time.