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Yuumi and weird Adaptive force scale on W

FURRY V2·10/31/2019, 12:22:40 PM·22 votes·12,166 views

I was experimenting with Yuumi (in practice tool) because of URF and something weird payed my attention about her [W], where her AP gets converted to adaptive force to share.

The base concept is, when I buy item 3089 + 5xitem 3907 Her AP becomes 1033 with the Adaptive force share of 171.

If I get item 3089 + item 3040 +4xitem 3285 Her AP becomes 1060 with the Adaptive force share of 147.

What? How did the Adaptive force become less? Since when more is less?

####But wait, there is more

item 3089 + 4xitem 3907 It gives around 850 AP with the Adaptive force share of 141

item 3089 + item 3151 + 4xitem 3285 It gives around 850 AP with the Adaptive force share of around 110.

Again, what?

Yuumi's [W] should convert her AP into Adaptive Force. The experiment I have done shows that, it is not exactly true.

Then how it works now?

18 Comments

Velzard of Koz10/31/2019, 7:53:06 PM7 votes

Did some testing in Practice Tool (0 AP without items, W always at Rank I)

item 3089 + item 3907 x5 = 1008 AP Correctly provides 45 AP, correctly recieves 5 AP (target dummy with no AD or AP, 5 is base value)

item 3089 + item 3040 + item 3285 x4 I struggle to get much higher AP than previous build (I don't even know how you got it), but it provides 918 AP, which means it should provide 41 Adaptive Force but provides 35 Adaptive Force instead. Huge gap.

item 3089 + item 3907 x4 = 840 AP Less than upper case yet provides 39 Adaptive Force. This replicates the case of less AP more AF.

item 3089 + item 3151 + item 3285 x4 = 777 AP 36 Adaptive Force. Much much less than 918 yet +1 AF.

Also noticed few funny things about W tooltips. First of all the tooltip of unattached W says 5 + 4% AF at Rank 1 but the tooltip of attached W says only 4% AF at Rank 1. Value allegedly provided doesn't change. Second of all the tooltip of unattached W has typo - says she's Attaches to instead of she's Attached to. This is fixed in attached W tooltip.

Now I looked at the stats the dummy recieves. Case 1: Correct Case 2: Tooltip corrects itself to 42 AF, correctly provides 25 AD Case 3: Correct Case 4: Correct

So in other words: It seems that Seraph screws her unattached W tooltip.

nm101010/31/2019, 1:00:23 PM3 votes

Tested,

got 174 AF for the first build with 1033 AP Second, 132 AF with 976 AP Third, 147 AF with 865 AP Fourth, 137 AF with 802 AP

I made sure to take no runes that would affect ap or anything. She felt bugged a few times I played her in aram, but this confirms that at least the tool tip is VERY bugged.

Saezio10/31/2019, 12:39:51 PM3 votes

I am assuming the W rank was the same in all the tests correct?

ZackTheWaffleMan10/31/2019, 5:16:55 PM3 votes

Upvoted for shiny colors and cool formatting.

Póppy Chulo10/31/2019, 3:42:09 PM2 votes

Im noticing since her release that hovering her W shows given stats, but when you attach the stats given are always even higher.

Also lets fix her W level up tooltip, it still shows release values like +13% and not +5(10%)

Zeromatsu10/31/2019, 8:40:08 PM1 votes

I did test it in practive tool just now.

And the only Bug is that item 3003 bonus ap from mana doesn't count towards the passive for some reason. If you take away the ap given from mana (also take the 40% from rabadons that comes thanks to that mana) then the numbers are correct.

Edit: as Velzard of Koz said in his post, this might just be a tooltip error when unattached. I didn't check that myself.

I did test your 2. example with item 3089 4x item 3907 and item 3089 item 3151 4xitem 3285 too and got the correct numbers. There was a delay when changing the items tho, so it appeared lower for a few seconds. But then the correct value showed. I think your 141 vs 110 comes from that delay too.

Terozu10/31/2019, 6:29:19 PM1 votes

Were you attaching to the same champ every time?

7thHeaven10/31/2019, 12:51:19 PM1 votes

Screenshot ?

SH Azykan10/31/2019, 8:32:02 PM1 votes

is it converting some of the movespeed into adaptive force as well by chance? Since spellbinder gives more movespeed and the tests with it are the ones with the higher AF? Just a theory.