Got to say this Taliyah is just a crappier version of ziggs

Shifue Draven··3 votes·1,696 views

Just being honest in what i noticed for both.This is what i have noticed and just my piece on the champion i think she is way to much like ziggs

Q-The main source of damage is and truly hit or miss and can be sucked up by minions and has aoe. Extremely spamable granted ziggs bomb can bounce but sometimes that means it hits a minion or misses same about taliyahs rocks while they don't bounce it's telegraphed a lot like ziggs bomb.

W- Used to push the enemy and do some damage. Ziggs does this one better as he can escape on it(shocked she can't since this is a copy) and now ziggs can bomb the towers with this.

E- Minefield attack both slow and do damage make a area of control. Taliyah's is on a time unless conditions cause them to blow. Ziggs explodes on contact.

R- The only skill difference between them. taliyah's wall no damage and really useless unless you have a organized team and even then can be easy to mess up the flow of a fight or even be totally useless. Ziggs big bomb that does damage can travel far as well granted you miss it and it's useless but atleast it does not screw your whole team over.

Then the passives of course but at this point it's just movement speed vs extra damage here and there take your pick.What is your thoughts on it? am i wrong?

5 Comments

Illiad2 votes

Did you really just compare their ultimates like there is a similarity at all? lawl.

Shifue Draven1 votes

No why don't you reread it as said the only difference between them.

Kiharon2 votes

The comparison is understandable given how similar looking the kits are, but it ignores that they have two different goals.

Taliyah is intended as a roaming control mage; Ziggs is an tower-crushing artillery mage.

Taliyah wants to roam and pick; Ziggs wants to seige.

While the Ws and Es are similar, that's ok because of the rest of the kits. Her Q is actually higher burst in some situations (420+120% vs 255+65%), but worse seige. Her ult gives no damage, but incredible roaming and zone control. Her passive helps the map movement, Ziggs gives better raw damage once he gets there, especially against structures. Her W and E are both significantly lower cooldown.

About the W in particular, they mentioned that they didn't want the possibility of using it as an escape because they thought it might override the main purpose of enemy control. Her W allows her to guarantee a knockback direction as opposed to Ziggs W that always knocks away from center.

Shifue Draven1 votes

True they do have two different goals but just seems like the kit was kinda just copied and pasted which i think is what bothers me about it.Thank you for your insight :D

Snowball4u1 votes

obv take move speed

Gotta be a sk8r

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