Riot! Can we EITHER give Teemo more AA range, or buff his damage?

Adormas··5 votes·1,021 views

Right now, EVEN AFTER ALL the reworks, he's still conflicted in his role. He has only one use right now - to annoy the enemy team.

Is he a marksman? Nope - too short a range Is he a mage? Nope, not enough upfront damage, nor any reliable cc. Can he top as a fighter? LOL, not really. Everyone can beat him save a few niche picks. Assassin? Nope, not enough damage, no escapes. Support? Nope. Unless you WANT to lose... Jungle? Nope, he cant clear efficiently nor gank. He doesn't do ANY role effectively.

Why can he not get proper buffs? Is it his E? Cause if his poison tick is whats preventing any buffs his way, EITHER just change his whole kit OR buff his E damage. You cannot have the best of both nerfs - deals no damage AND has a weak kit. NO! That is UNFAIR! I don't mind getting a completely reworked champion (even ready to give up his R), if it means I can play Teemo in some role, effectively. Honestly you guys have tried preserving his kit and balancing him, but you just keep nerfing him. Just change his kit already! AND DONT CALL HIM MARKSMAN! He cannot play that role, and you all know it.

He's a scout right? So give him scouting abilities, give him some CC, give him supporting abilities, give him stealth on his move quick.... You can do so many things, but please change his current gimmicky condition.

He was the first champion I played all the way back in season 1. That was when everyone was getting used to MOBA's. Now he's just weak and pointless. Please fix my favorite champion!

What does everyone else think?

15 Comments

Shac Norris3 votes

no teemo is good teemo

Adormas2 votes

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no teemo is good teemo

Fine, if they remove him, then I want a refund for the skins I brought. That astro skin is really expensive.

OR

They could rework his kit completely.

Shac Norris2 votes

Why would they remove a champion? lol

CreationFlaw2 votes

MAGIC DAMAGE: 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 60% AP) (+ 100% Bonus AD)

Massive mate. Especially the "Bonus AD" part.

MAGIC DAMAGE: 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 80% AP) BLIND DURATION: 1.5 / 1.75 / 2 / 2.25 / 2.5

Horse Grenades1 votes

Yes! I LOVE as a fed adc when 2-6 teemo with 1.5 items walks up and insta-gibs with a q and 3 autos before i can do anything but run ( probably into a shroom)

Adormas1 votes

I don't know what to say. Any assassin/mage could have done that to you, from the way you're describing your position.

Horse Grenades1 votes

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I don't know what to say. Any assassin/mage could have done that to you, from the way you're describing your position.

I described my position?

Drehirth1 votes

Some men just want to see the world burn....

Espy Psyche1 votes

Teemo's AA range is fine thematically. His weapon is a blowgun. It's not going to have range like a bow (Ashe/Varus), a gun (Caitlyn/Graves/Corki), or a crossbow (Quinn/Twitch).

As far as his damage, I would buff his base damage on W, not anything on Q or the AP scaling on W. That would make attack speed more useful on him, which turns him from AP trap placing Teemo (that's instagibbed by Oracle Alteration) into AP/AS Teemo who builds like Kayle.

Adormas1 votes

It may be fine thematically (blowgun and all), but it puts him in harms way from 90% of the champs in LoL.

Also buffing E (I'm guessing you meant Toxic Shot (E) and not Move Quick (W)) would work fine if he had a kit to support such a build (on hit effect). Kayle's kit is meant for on-hit because she has both ap and ad scalings, massive ratios on her Q, a very strong heal, and an ulti that negates damage for 2 entire seconds (at lvl 1 ultimate, mind you). If I had a dollar for every time I'd have lived and gotten a kill if I had had Kayles ult as Teemo, I'd be filthy rich. In short, you cannot compare the two champs.

The bottom line is, his skills are just strange. His E is not designed to gel well with the rest of his kit.

SaltyKracka1 votes

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It may be fine thematically (blowgun and all), but it puts him in harms way from 90% of the champs in LoL.

Good. He's more than safe enough as it is.

Zair Umbras1 votes

Satan doesn't need buffs. He needs a few hotfixes to get his R working properly with DFT and maybe his E can become the same as Fizz's where it actually applies on-spell stuff (Yes, Fizz's W's DoT PASSIVE applies Vamp, Rylai's, Luden's, and the likes). Considering he has to be in 500 range to actually hit anything, it can't hurt to make it apply a slow or Liandry's.

Adormas1 votes

His E doesn't apply Liandrys??

Also, fizz has a ton of escapes. On hit just wont work on teemo as well as it does on other champs.

Zair Umbras1 votes

Teemo's E, just like Kog's and Varus's W that apply spell damage on-hit do not apply things like Liandry's and Rylai's.

Fizz's W's passive counts as a spell rather than an on-hit proc for some reason.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Yeah, let's have his Point+Click/High Damage/Low Mana Cost/Low CD/Blinding Q have more range. I'm sure that will be an amazing thing to do.

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